Give Force camouflage to Sorc Healers

Well more to the point, melee should be worrying more about roots than Sage/Sorc because we can't avoid them unless we have some precognition that we are going to be rooted more than once...

It's just unrealistic to sayJuggs/Guard have more escape tools, when we don't have a button to remove roots besides CC break... Mara/Sents in Carnage/Combat, ok (but not really cause cleanse is still a possible additional root breaker), but Juggs/Guards... No...


Asking for a real DFCD, I would listen to.... Since they are dependant on casting (i.e. rooted), having a top tier DFCD or uninterrupt talent would be feasible, if it nerfed healing output while active.... But all specs for this AC needs something like that....


I think the biggest problem for healers is teammate support, which is why PuG healers got issues... Ranked/Premade.... Nope...

It can be used as an escape.

Only in the heal tree.

Because sorcs often need to escape melee range.

You don't substantiate the claim that it is a bad idea. Why? A full corruption spec sorc is apparently known to be squishy and usually get targeted first. Wouldn't it be fair to give them an escape? Sprint is great, especially with fade out, but still... Ops have better escapes and they don't even need it.

*sigh......
Yea and we are talking about the heal tree! Even Hybrid Heals get Egress...

And I already said leap is not used to escape roots because it don't break roots... EVER... Healers can break roots in three ways. DPS in two ways. Juggs in one....

DPS needs a TON of work, but it is still a similar debate. Why would I want to root a caster class as a melee? Run SimC for a Sage/Sorc on helter-skelter, then on light movement... DPS or HPS drops a TON on helter... Same thing applies in PVP. Making this entire AC, move makes them ineffective. Rooting them goes against this entirely.

And yes escape is an option, you have more options to actually escape than most classes. Like stuns/mezz/counter roots/snares, in addition to the root breaks...

This thread isn't about dps, it's about heals.

What three ways do healers have to break roots? No half minded fool is going to use their stun break on a root.

Roots aren't a problem for heal sorcs, it's not about breaking them, but avoiding damage. KB any melee class when rooted, stun them, mezz them, force speed, and cleanse on force based roots. Not to mention you can continue to heal yourself if nothing else while rooted. I don't see how this is a problem in any way unless you are being focused, in which case you were going to die to multiple opponents anyway without help from your team.

Can't leap while rooted.

I would be fine with sorcs getting force camo type skill though it wouldn't really make sense lore wise.

Give Sage/Sorcs stealth in and out of combat. Make Salvation/Revivification heal unlimited people. Nerf the cooldown on bubbles. Put the bubblestun talent in the Corruption tree. Give Sorcs/Sages cover, so that they can't be jumped by melee. Give them a spammable instant free heal. Give them Force Push, so that if they're jumped while out of cover, they can quickly create a gap again. Give them Inspiration, Transcendence for team utility. Give them Plasma Probe for objective defense. Make Rocket Boost work for Sages in warzones. Give them Cloak of Pain, Guided by the Force, Saber Ward, Enure, Dodge, Shield Probe and Force Shroud. Give them a finisher attack but it should work on people below 100% HP instead of 30%.

No?

Exactly what I said. Reread my post....


Healers got Egress, Cleanse, and CC break.... And if you are rooted each will give to a chance to escape...

Egress: Removes all impairments.
Cleanse: Removes all Force roots/snares.
CC breaker: Removes all impairments.

There are no root breakers for Juggs besides CC break and using it, in most cases, is dumb (unless you are trying to prevent something). So in the end, juggs/melee spend WAY more (as we should be)time rooted than Sage/Sorc are, no matter how you slice it.


Sorc/Sage complaining about roots is ROFL..

We agree for the most part. The post above I was quoting was in reference to the poster starting that dps sorcs should get camouflage too and mentioned several root breakers we had. I don't think roots are a problem for us either, I do think we could use an escape and that could be force camouflage