Vanguard's The easiest Target in PVP

And nerf operatives while at it.

Vanguard. Escape. Vanguard. Escape. These are mutually exclusive breh.

As a powertech myself... You're joking right?

A vanguard who is jealous of commandos?

Well, that's a first.

7/10.

Did you actually suggest the class with perhaps the best, most uncounterable single target burst in the game would lose to a commando? Are you high?

Yes Pyro PTs and Assault VGs are kind of glass cannons, but unlike some other classes at least they get one hell of a cannon.

Trust me, I have been playing Merc/Mando for awhile now and knocking back a VG/PT only delays ones death momentarily. If you play a Commando and you are suddenly targeted by an even semi competent Powertech the only result for you is death. The only way to survive is completely relying on your team to bail you out, we have nothing to counter you, let alone full melee classes, especially in Gunnery spec. At least with Assault we can somewhat snare you and slow you down, though you have the exact same capability with a 100% chance for it to proc with your no CD spamable elemental damage ability; compared to our 16% talented chance.

Commando/Mercenary definitely need a buff, Powertech/Vanguard do not.

I have a Valor 85 DPS sorc and a Valor 60 DPS Van and I happen to agree with him.

They don't need much, mind you. That 30% snare going back to 50 would probably be enough without making them overpowered. That change really hurt vanguards vs marauders.

I took a non-pvp spec into a warzone and couldn't kill a pvp spec with it is what you're saying.

No thx, we got it.

There should be no PVE spec and PVP spec, every spec in a perfect world should be viable. Saying its a PVE spec doesn't negate that it is unbalanced and very underpowered.

That said I don't expect a Gunnery Commando to outright defeat a Assualt VG by any means, but getting destroyed without a chance is not right. All I ask is a little more survivability and more escape so we are not completely shut down by every class.