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Request to Bioware regarding Taral V - HM


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Zamppa
12.18.2012 , 11:28 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Ephesia View Post
That's just absurd and if you don't see it, there's nothing I can do or say to you, just stay far away from me.
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Dharz
12.31.2012 , 12:21 PM | #32
What I find disheartening is epitomized by this thread. I have a new Shadow tank spec. I just hit 50 this weekend. I haven't dared step into a HM FP because I am NEW to tanking in a group situation. People from group finder have just been rude and impatient when I have run the first 3 FPs at their normal level. I quit running FP's during leveling because I didn't want to deal with that. Those first runs, at level, saw DPS running ahead and pulling, then screaming why don't you get them off me?? I am not a bad player, at least I don't think I am. I ran all 3 of the Belsavis H2+ dailies last night, after hitting 50, completed them easily and didn't die, solo. I just tend to be methodical and enjoy working WITH people, not pushing, taunting, insulting along the way. And... I like doing the content as I go thru... PLUS, I don't know all these 'SKIPS' and as a tank.... I am kind of expected to be out front...

Its easy to say GET A GUILD. Is that to say that the group finder is useless to anyone not in a guild? Is it only a tool to get into groups where we can be disrespectful and rude to other players because we have no connection to them? If someone were as rude to a guildie as I have seen in PUG's.... the rude folks would be gkicked without a second thought.

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Feindseligkeit
12.31.2012 , 10:34 PM | #33
If you are new to tanking and uncertain of your ability, then you shouldn't be running hm fps. Start out with the sm ones. Generally people take things a lot slower and actually want to kill all the mobs for xp. That's where you want to start, then if you are still uncomfortable, pick and chose flashpoints... there are quite a few where it's hard to skip trash.

As far as dps running ahead... just open with a nice "hello everyone... by the way, you pull it, you tank it."

Main thing is, be straight forward and honest with the group... don't run in acting like you know everything if you don't. Tell them "hey, I'm new to tanking, can someone else show me the path and try not to pull?" I've found most of the people to be very accommodating in this game if you give them a chance to be.

The other thing to remember is you are playing a game for your enjoyment, but so is everyone else. The majority of the people I've seen don't enjoy doing the story in flashpoints... for the most part they don't really enjoy doing flashpoints in general, but the bh comms are nice. If you have certain preferences that place you in the minority of players, then find a guild that caters to that.

I enjoy flashpoints with guildies when we try to break things... last night I did LI HM and managed to down sav-rak without him using one smash. Our Vanguard tank specced dps on Dr Lorrick so we could down him before he used 1 kolto tank. That is what I find fun... being able to break the mechanics in a fp or op, the complete opposite of the OP.

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mikebevo
01.01.2013 , 11:58 AM | #34
I have never been in Taral V when it was not asked on the last boss to kill or skp. I have also never been in a group that did not kill when someone asked. It isn't my fault that it isn't kill if people don't speak up. I always say the samething on every boss "don't care." Because I don't care, nothing is going to drop that I could use, but I am more than willing to kill it if anyone in the group wants the gear or just wants to kill it.

If the rest of the group don't want to kill it, then finish the coverstation and I will go down and kill him with you and my companion after the rest of the group leaves.

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Icebergy
01.01.2013 , 12:05 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Icestar View Post
Wrong, it is not the fastest way regarding what the OP writes.

He speaks about a bosskill in Taral V that takes around 5 minutes to do. Two of my characters got their columni gloves on the first run for example. According to your statement it takes shorter time to get gloves from comm runs then killing a boss that takes 5 minutes, that is not logical at all.

Besides if you get the gloves you can get another piece by using comms so in any way, killing the boss for those that needs can shorten the time to get good gear considerably.

The designflaw to be able to bypass a final boss that drops columni and be forced to beg the team to kill the boss is gamebreaking.
Way to pick and choose one sentence out of my post. If you had quoted the entire post, you would see that I addressed this.
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Velnora
01.01.2013 , 12:16 PM | #36
The opinions being discussed in here is a HUGE deal for me. Many times have I gone into a flashpoint, tried to communicate, and then people do whatever they want, such as fighting every single mob or not spacebarring because "that's what FPs are for" they say after the fact, after not bothering to ask what we are there for.

But the moment you enter a group you are a TEAM, it is not just your priorities and wants that matter. I find it exceptionally rude to go in with a "my way or the highway" attitude. It's generally tanks that do it because they know they are the hardest to replace.

The proper etiquette, if you have a particular want out of the FP, is to state it at the beginning and ASK the group. More often than not they are willing to accomodate. I absolutely cannot stand the players who do not do this. I've always been willing to help out a group if they wanted to do more than to just get their comms as quick as possible, but it rubs me the wrong way to NO END when they don't simply ask. I cannot emphasize how rude it is not to just ask.

Rudeness is not indicative of importance. Rudeness is indicative of itself. Nothing more.

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Jedi_Slayer
01.01.2013 , 12:22 PM | #37
this is an interesting conversation because really there are 2 sides that are not wrong. As a healer i go through the flow and ride with it. At the same time I also only get on one or 2 times a week normally. So I will queue random for the comms and then queue just Taral V and Ilum because they are 10-15min runs I can use to get my weekly done.

I have done many of these flashpoints a few dozen times each, and I will say there are time when I wonder what it would be like to clear an entire flashpoint, and I mean every trash mob and boss for fun... and then I think about how long that will take....

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river_of_Gem
01.01.2013 , 08:19 PM | #38
I don't really get all those fresh 50 saying calling other "selfish, child etc" for skipping boss. "Playing game as intended" - i am sorry my intended are my own

Seriously, this is a mmo, intereact with your group, ask them that you need gear and need to fight those boss. If 3 out of 4 want to skip, you are the selfish one if you want to force them to your playstyle, otherwise, what's your problem then ? For me, unless i am super busy, i have no trouble fighting 1 or 2 more boss if you ask.

I dinged 50 in May when there are no group finder around, and as a mdps it seem impossible for me to get into any HM FP at all ( ppl prefer to do it with their guildies ), but instead of crying on forum i found ppl to form a group, then we become friends, then we made our own guild and now we are all happy in full 63 gear .

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MasterJacer
01.01.2013 , 08:36 PM | #39
Are you seriously posting this on the forums? Now it will get removed.
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Master-Nala
01.03.2013 , 07:35 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by MasterJacer View Post
Are you seriously posting this on the forums? Now it will get removed.
It will anyway. I've started seeing people quit any FP not Taral V because they want a speed run. It's so disheartening, I've stopped running them. Don't need to loot, and don't mind taking my time on the BH comms.
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