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[PvP Guide] Wakaworld: Your resource for advanced Sith Assassin/Jedi Shadow strategy!

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[PvP Guide] Wakaworld: Your resource for advanced Sith Assassin/Jedi Shadow strategy!

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stephenalandavie
12.23.2012 , 10:03 PM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by WalkinDead View Post
Just wanna say I love this spec it makes lacerate so beast.
Why is lacerate beast? i don't even have it keybinded on my shadow in pvp waste of force

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Squidkidz
12.23.2012 , 11:57 PM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by stephenalandavie View Post
Why is lacerate beast? i don't even have it keybinded on my shadow in pvp waste of force
obvious troll is obvious...
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stephenalandavie
12.24.2012 , 02:12 PM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by Squidkidz View Post
obvious troll is obvious...
Was going to say lol, That ability is useless in a wz

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Squidkidz
12.24.2012 , 02:41 PM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by stephenalandavie View Post
Was going to say lol, That ability is useless in a wz
It's good if your AoE's are on CD and you need to stop multiple cappers. For example in hypergates or novare coast.
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stephenalandavie
12.24.2012 , 02:43 PM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by Squidkidz View Post
It's good if your AoE's are on CD and you need to stop multiple cappers. For example in hypergates or novare coast.
Never found a use for it to tell the truth,

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Peillach
12.24.2012 , 03:51 PM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by stephenalandavie View Post
Never found a use for it to tell the truth,
Pull people out of stealth, stop cappers

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Himeji_Endless
12.29.2012 , 04:37 AM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by stephenalandavie View Post
Was going to say lol, That ability is useless in a wz
Bomb defuse zerg on Voidstar ... especially if you are heavily outnumbered ... i deathfield first, then overload and then will use it, but its a joke that waka told a while back i think :P

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Valentyna
12.31.2012 , 12:31 AM | #188
So... I need help with my darkness tanky build, and I' hoping someone here cna help me (since it's the go to place, it seems, for awesome, experience-based build discussion.

In your (Wakalord) OP you say that full 31-point darkness is an under-rated spec and can be effective. I really WANT that to be true, because I love it. I lvoe teh cocnept, the aesthetic,s the playstyle, everything. But It doesn't seem to work out when I try it the past several days.

Or, more accurately, it doesn't seem veyr good compared to the style of darkness hybred you (and everyone else these days) suggested as a good beginners' build.

I've actually experimented over the last few days (go go Christmas vacation!) with going full darkness, and going darkness hybrid, just with dark ward and varying degrees of tank gear. Changing my DPS gear for Tank gear makes a big difference in my survival bu the extra 8 points in Darkness don't. It feels like I'm giving up a LOT (Claws of Decay, Death field, Instant Whirlwind) in exchange for not that much. Whither does way less damage than Death Field, and has less range. It has nice utility but it's only real reson-d'etre is to set up Harnessed Darkness. HD is kewl, and I love it; the animation is sexy, the damage is _theoretically_ high, and i get to shoot lightning out of my hands! But as you yourself noted when discussing the idea of a 27/x/x hybred it's very hard to get full use out of a 3-second rooted channel with 10m range in PvP. In fact, I'd say the biggest advantage of taking 31 darkness so far is having the points to take all 3 levels of duplicity (mmmm... maul damage) :P

The bottom line is that I'm trying to find a good reason to play full darkness, and the OP gave me hope that it would be possible, but given how much damage and utility it costs me and how vanishingly LITTLE survivability it adds, it's not clear that that's true.

So... my question, after all that long diatribe is... how the hell do you make darkness good in PvP?


TLDR: Why do I suck at darkness?
"A woman came up to me and said, 'I'd like to poison your mind/
With wrong ideas that appeal to you, Though I am not unkind.'"

— They Might Be Giants, "Whistling in the Dark".

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EatenByDistance
12.31.2012 , 04:30 AM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by Valentyna View Post
So... my question, after all that long diatribe is... how the hell do you make darkness good in PvP?
full darkness can be good for tanking in the middle of big fights. I.e. when you're not node guarding. Wither's damage debuff and slow are very useful in those situations and Harnessed Darkness does enough damage to make you a threat. It is also a very good dueling spec against certain classes (the only person I can not more or less slaughter in duels consistently is a fellow guildies' full darkness assassin).

but if you're node guarding I still think 23/1/17 is better and if you're dps in wzs I still prefer Wakajinn.
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...and the only person who doesn't think so is some B-team assassin DPS who is just dragging his team down by playing the incorrect spec.

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Valentyna
12.31.2012 , 01:43 PM | #190
Maybe that IS what I'm doing wrong then. Intuitively it seems natural that the 'full tank' spec should be the obvious choice to hold a capture point against overwhelming odds long enough for help to arrive, but obvious isn't always the same as true. I'll try spending more time with big group and see how it goes.
"A woman came up to me and said, 'I'd like to poison your mind/
With wrong ideas that appeal to you, Though I am not unkind.'"

— They Might Be Giants, "Whistling in the Dark".