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Is smash really that OP?

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Is smash really that OP?

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Chemic_al
12.31.2012 , 02:48 AM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by Debaucher View Post

If any other class had an autocrit ability talent, it would get as high the numbers.
Lol no.... sorcs have auto-crit on thundering blast if the target has affliction on them, difference is

a) it's single target
b) has a 2s cast time which is both susceptible to LoS and interupt
c) Doesn't hit anywhere near as hard
d) The spec itself requires you to have a decent amount of crit to proc the lightning barrages.

Smash is just broken, and the fact Biofail even let this crap out of the gate onto live is bad enough, but not to revert it or address this issue, even worse.

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TonyDragonflame
12.31.2012 , 03:04 AM | #142
Quote: Originally Posted by Arlanon View Post
Smash is fine. Bads whine about anything that beats them.

You're next.
^ this.

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Fixiooo
12.31.2012 , 03:44 AM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by Arlanon View Post
Smash is fine. Bads whine about anything that beats them.

You're next.
Implying you aren't the first to reroll when the smash build gets nerfed into oblivion. FOTM babby.

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Aaoogaa
12.31.2012 , 04:16 AM | #144
Quote: Originally Posted by ELECTRICJUDGMENT View Post
My point is that Valor was a lot harder to earn back then vs. now, so it's actually not as meaningless as you say.
Eh no. The Ilum valor trade farming was easy as pie and cake mixed togeather. There were people hitting 50 valor in a couple days.
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LuciferinDNA
12.31.2012 , 05:16 AM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by Chemic_al View Post
Lol no.... sorcs have auto-crit on thundering blast if the target has affliction on them, difference is

a) it's single target
b) has a 2s cast time which is both susceptible to LoS and interupt
c) Doesn't hit anywhere near as hard
d) The spec itself requires you to have a decent amount of crit to proc the lightning barrages.

Smash is just broken, and the fact Biofail even let this crap out of the gate onto live is bad enough, but not to revert it or address this issue, even worse.
this +
Its a useless skill tree, only good to make already OP classes even stun there opponent, spec makes the jugg indestructible with a +20% stunning bubble on him, who land the smash lol!

I don't want smash nerf, I want upgrade for other classes, to make them a chance for handling it. - but this one is a have to! specially for low HP AC's

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ELECTRICJUDGMENT
12.31.2012 , 05:38 AM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by Aaoogaa View Post
Eh no. The Ilum valor trade farming was easy as pie and cake mixed togeather. There were people hitting 50 valor in a couple days.
Eh. Yeah. Trade farming requires cooperation from the other faction. Kind of hard to trade farm when the 3:1 ratio of Imps on our server would wait at the spawn to kill every Rep player in sight. They dominated central 24/7 for months after launch. There was no trade farming on our server. I'm happy the server got shut down to be honest, the factions were incredibly unbalanced which caused a lot of people to stop playing. WZ queues were approaching 30 min waits because there just weren't enough Reps.

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ELECTRICJUDGMENT
12.31.2012 , 05:44 AM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by Chemic_al View Post
Lol no.... sorcs have auto-crit on thundering blast if the target has affliction on them, difference is

a) it's single target
b) has a 2s cast time which is both susceptible to LoS and interupt
c) Doesn't hit anywhere near as hard
d) The spec itself requires you to have a decent amount of crit to proc the lightning barrages.

Smash is just broken, and the fact Biofail even let this crap out of the gate onto live is bad enough, but not to revert it or address this issue, even worse.
How much does thundering blast hit for overall? Doesn't it last for several seconds? And what is the CD?

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Debaucher
12.31.2012 , 06:13 AM | #148
Quote: Originally Posted by Chemic_al View Post
Lol no.... sorcs have auto-crit on thundering blast if the target has affliction on them, difference is

a) it's single target
b) has a 2s cast time which is both susceptible to LoS and interupt
c) Doesn't hit anywhere near as hard
d) The spec itself requires you to have a decent amount of crit to proc the lightning barrages.

Smash is just broken, and the fact Biofail even let this crap out of the gate onto live is bad enough, but not to revert it or address this issue, even worse.
Sorry, not really familiar with Sorcs, as i have not rolled one yet.

My point was that only rage spec'd warriors have the priviledge to max using only power and surge ignoring every other thing, like critical rating, even the little accuracy boost other classes need. This results to ~1.050 bonus force damage and ~100% surge bonus.

This is why the tree is broken.
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LuciferinDNA
12.31.2012 , 09:05 AM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by Debaucher View Post
Sorry, not really familiar with Sorcs, as i have not rolled one yet.

My point was that only rage spec'd warriors have the priviledge to max using only power and surge ignoring every other thing, like critical rating, even the little accuracy boost other classes need. This results to ~1.050 bonus force damage and ~100% surge bonus.

This is why the tree is broken.
Like a player, who has two lvl 50 Sage, I should say, that it looks good in the forum, but don't works.....
If you ask me, that tree should be rebuild from the ground! Its bad for the Sorc/Sage AC (its not a DPS tree, its a crap) and bubble stun is not that popular any way....
Give as the same middle tree as commando has! Its a dps tree.. but not ours. Would be OP no? lol yes, exactly this is how we roll now, any dps tree (with its dmg numbers) would seem OP compared to Sage /Sorc DMG trees.
I have all classes and believe me, its the most crap AC at the game right now. The glass cannon, who is from glass but the devs forgot about his cannon : /

Back to the issue, smash is OP like hell with now days game mechanics

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Hairyzac
12.31.2012 , 09:05 AM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by Chimerako View Post
lol I'm not on nor do I care about your server or some random guy who does great dps that you happen to know. maybe he is the greatest Jugg to ever live but the fact is when I play and see others play a good scor can match dps with a smash jugg. Over all damage not burst. ive been playing my sent to level him but i'll happily post some screen shots when I get a chance.
You be trollin.