Is smash really that OP?

When you have multiple people playing these specs is when it gets bad. I don't really have an issue killing a Mara or jugg one on one in any other class but when it's three of them in the same WZ group smashing that's when it truely feels op. then again if I'm in an assassin or stealth class I'd hardly notice. Most dps classes can potentially do the same single target damage in 2 gcd that a smasher can do in 1 gcd as an AoE attack. Maybe they should just cut down the dps of that hit by 30%

Focus/Rage is the only viable DPS tree for Guardians/Juggernauts right now. If Sweep/Smash gets nerfed because a bunch of douchbag Sents/Maras decided to respec to Focus/Rage, then I expect a huge buff to the Vigilance/Vengeance tree. Otherwise Guards/Juggs will be useless as anything but tanks.

Well, Scoundrels and Operatives hit for less than that with a from-stealth position requirement opener and BioWare broke their PvE and PvP DPS to satisfy the raging sorc community. If that was OP, this is hilariously OP.

Rage spec has an aoe attack that always crits after using one of the leaps has a higher crit chance on your vicious throw and vicious slash has a dot that ticks for a lot of dmg and slows the target more and more as it reaches the end of the duration and the aoe cd is 12s and can be brought down to 9s by spamming certain attacks and has 30% armor pen and for juggs and aoe 9s slow that costs 1 rage and mara's have a 12s slow that costs 1 rage and a 10m leap that can root for 1s and leap people in cover and still roots for the 1s even through like dodge the only thing that doesnt get rooted is the new sorc root immunity sprint and scream can crit for like 4.5k and you have 6% extra force crit so power stacking is pretty good for that spec even though running 30% melee crit has a good effect as well as I have seen with really good players that top charts. So to say smash is not op atm is stupid people who have played the class forever and rerolled to it have said its op and it didnt need a buff and I have a mara that sometimes runs smash and it is a bit over the top I can spam my vicious slash after a beserk over and over I barely ever have to use my assault which builds rage its mostly beserk leap choke and battering assault that build my rage and on a jugg you have push to reset leap and 6% more force dmg and your scream is free after leaping and you can taunt and intercede as well so overall smash is op needs a nerf but when I say nerf I mean something to put it back in line not make it almost unplayable like mercs

^ this.
Rage mara's need nerfed, but rage for juggs now only one avaible dps spec.

And yes, before nerf rage need nerf assasins and snipers.

Personally I think the best fix for focus spec is for shockwave to be a debuff on a enemy instead of a buff for the player. This way only that target will get hit with the damage increase from shockwave and the other players being hit by the aoe will just get the normal smash damage instead of the autocrit + shockwave. That or make blade storm/force scream the auto crit ability instead of smash and make the spec a single target spec. Only problem I can see with that though is it would probably make people ignore vengeance even more.

Vigilance is good. I do not understand why people think overwise.

No the best fix is remove the auto-crit, but allow a passive +30% crit chance instead on the target, anyone else gets the standard crit chance, that way they can't ignore crit gear and min-max power/surge. That and lower damage by about 20%.

Vigilance is good. I do not understand why people think overwise.

Because it's too hard to play apparently.