We have more players than GW2?

This may surprise you but I and many of my guildies that play TOR dont use it either. Guess we even out eh.

The point isnt numbers per se but trends. And god knows gw2 fans were very fond of xfire when it clocked more hours played for gw2 than for wow. Now, not so reliable/relevant anymore eh heh.

I agree with this myself, if they had stuck to a traditional mmo game. It would have been an amazing F2P game, that would have countless players. GW2 is less like an mmo and more like a action rpg, not to mention the bugs and broken skills / talents are pouring out of the game.

Now its not a bad game, it can be a nice little diversion. But the devs have a long way still to go to fix a lot of the problems. And in its short time out, they have put a lot of new content / world events in. The holiday stuff alone has been top notch.

Swtor might have more active players then gw2 right now but what do you expect. SWTOR is the best free rpg with multiplayer options going. Tell me another rpg you can get for nothing that has the depth of story that this game does, how many have paid anything is a different story.

Going to disagree. GW1 was a great game for it's time. But having that style of game play into today's market is just plain bad. It's a bad game now and they realized it. Hell, they even said that GW1 made for a bad game play. It's the same reason people trying to copy WoW now are failing not only because it's an established MMO with years of development in it's pocket. But the old model is well... old. People want something new and that's what it delivers. No, they aren't approaching SWTOR population you have no way of telling that. It's not a subscriber based game so actual numbers are hard to put on paper. People come and go as they please a lot with that game so getting any rational number isn't possible.

I actually enjoy GW2 it's mostly a PvP game, yeah. But the PvE isn't that terrible. Lacking? Yes. Terrible, no.

Having run major server events on both planets I can tell you that this is actually around the cap of each instance of those planets. So are you sure that you checked if there wasn't a second instance of the planet active already?

Also, it is logical that people spread out more at the higher levels. Where on low levels, people spend multiple levels on the same planet, once you hit end 30 you have 1-3 levels for each planet arc. That near endgame levelling areas are always the emptiest is a very simple fact of increased levelling curve MMO's.

Good and valid point. For those not understanding this: TV Ratings are also determined on a sample audience. For game activity, XFire could be considered the same. Important factor that is against XFire though is that many gamers, especially the more casual ones, would not use the system. Therefore, the XFire sample audience may not be representative enough for the entire gaming population.
This requires a good statistical analysis though, not random shouts and quotes on a forum.

This, and new players or casual players that stay on planets longer then others.
I'm leveling a new char atm too, and i noticed that the people i left behind on previous planet a week ago (i had some stuff on main n such to do) that these people are only now arriving at the new planet, not everyone finishes a planet in an hour

It is like an ARPG, but with really boring loot. I think psychologically the game doesn't give you that need to play it like many arpg's do. All it is, is running from marker to marker helping random people do boring quests. People praised the DAoC -like PvP, but the PvE is so boring that I couldn't continue playing. I can't even enter a dungeon without having a group, and I HATE spamming the chat while waiting at the entrance just to do one.

I am still waiting for a new MMO that really captures the sense of community like DAoC did. That won't happen until they get away from instanced areas. This is the single worst MMO trend to date. I met alot of people in the older MMO's by going into a dungeon and meeting people who wanted to group up to tackle a harder section of each dungeon. Now in new MMO's everyone waits at the entrance spamming LFG. It is just a terrible design that splits up the community.

Two words 'STAR WARS'

I honestly couldn't care less which game has more or less players. I've no idea why anyone else does either.

WHO CARES.

You either enjoy the game your are playing or you do not.