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We have more players than GW2?

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Nemmar
12.27.2012 , 03:21 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Mazikeen View Post
This. GW2 is a fantastic game, but it's lack of raids (which is good, really) and it's crap PvP leaves it in a hole after you gear up. They tried introducing new dungeons, but I quit right before then, they were also adding a gear grind.

But for a B2P game, it's very nice and worth having on your computer. SWTOR simply has more 'traditional' endgame than GW2
How does that add up? Its a fantastic game, but its terribly boring and has no content? That would be a BAD game right?

Were not even mentioning how terrible the combat is aswell. Auto-attack fest.

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TheHunterC
12.27.2012 , 04:12 PM | #72
It's great to see that the community in swtor is growing! I love the game and hope it lasts and is updated with new content for as long as possible. I'm happy that more people have decided to play this game
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Petnil
12.27.2012 , 04:32 PM | #73
The best part of GW2 is the exploration imo. Thatīs a place where GW>SWTOR
Solo gaming is about the same.
Group gaming is kinda ok, i do miss the tank/healer thing though SWTOR wins there
Stability. well, i havent had a random dc in GW2 yet. lost count on how many iīve had in swtor.
PvP, no idea since i dont pvp, lets call it a draw.
Endgame. No idea (havent made it to endgame in GW2) but seeing the endgame in swtor GW2 cant be that far behind.
The world. Nothing beats star wars. Thatīs the main reason people pick swtor over any other mmo. Not the class stories. The GW2 world is not engaging. The worlds are more alive and feel less restricted, but iīm not feeling anything for this world. Tatooine e.x. is boring and lifeless in comparison, but itīs starwars. That just brings something extra.

For me the main draw in GW2 is the stability and fewer bugs. And i like the way they aply patches.
For me the main draw in swtor is that itīs star wars. Thatīs basicly it. Also i like the basic trinity group thing. The stability and lag in FPīs is not helping though.

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Vlacke
12.27.2012 , 04:40 PM | #74
SWTOR > GW2 in many departments, to me at least.
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Viikuna
12.27.2012 , 04:51 PM | #75
Only reason why i'm not currently playing GW2 is, because there are no healers.

I've played a healer in MMORPG's since 2005. I even do in some FPS games like Battlefield (medic). I tried, but i get bored of the gameplay in under 1 hour, because healing is the thing i find fun.

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dandamanno
12.27.2012 , 08:01 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by aeterno View Post
Going by xfire charts in the first month alone gw2 peaked higher and ended lower
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...wtorgraph2.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...stukas/gw2.jpg

Looking at the stats today they're both pretty much at 1/10 - 1/8 of their respective peaks. One 1 year in and the other what, 3 months? Not hard to figure out which slump had to be the steeper one in the shorter time frame.

Again, take it as you will. I take it as a sign that the messiah of mmo games has yet to arrive. To the Titan party!
For what it's worth, according to xfire, you will note that GW2 has been stable peaks and valleys (at about 2x the hours logged as SWTOR) for the last 2 months. At this point in SWTOR's lifecycle (4 months after launch) SWTOR was losing about 50 000-100,000 subs/month on average.

The big difference, of course, is that SWTOR was relying on those subs for revenue, whereas the B2P GW2 does not.

So as to the original op question, GW2 seems to have more active players, and seems to be mostly stable. SWTOR seems to have fewer players but also seems mostly stable.

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DaRoamer
12.27.2012 , 08:27 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Marmerus View Post
There is less than 100 people most of the time. But even if it was 100 people the number is still very low.
Just think about it 3 servers with 100 people on each planet. That does not make up for a lot of people in total.
The little number in the corner only tells you how many people from your faction are on the planet. So if it says 100 then it's likely double that. Last night on Shadowlands on the Imp side Balmorra had 5 instances going. That was likely about 300-350 people, Imp side only.

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Caelith
12.28.2012 , 12:28 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by dalin View Post
From my limited time on GW2, I felt that the game was pretty and had alot of fluff in the sense of things to see and listen to.

Once you got past the fluff (puzzles, jumping, vista points) it was just a boring PvE game with a world pvp endgame. Not even sure there's anything else to do atm. You can only attack a keeps walls for so long before you get bored of it.

Oh and I hated the combat system, always felt like I was waitting on CD's with my Necro. I also hated the fact that there was no pure healer spec's as that's what I enjoy doing in PvP. DPS bores me after a while.

No clue on how it's doing though, but I doubt it's doing badly.
This ^

I found the fact that you had most of your skills early meant you had nothing to look forward to as you leveled up apart from elite skills.
The siege of Coruscant was in fact brought to an end after the republic agreed to give the Empire a Shrubbery, one that looked nice and wasn't too expensive.

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Jumajin
12.28.2012 , 12:37 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by aeterno View Post
Going by xfire charts in the first month alone gw2 peaked higher and ended lower
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...wtorgraph2.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...stukas/gw2.jpg

Looking at the stats today they're both pretty much at 1/10 - 1/8 of their respective peaks. One 1 year in and the other what, 3 months? Not hard to figure out which slump had to be the steeper one in the shorter time frame.

Again, take it as you will. I take it as a sign that the messiah of mmo games has yet to arrive. To the Titan party!
Oh Christ, Xfire again. I got GW2 for Xmas and have been logging into it, and not SWTOR. I don't use Xfire. Guess it doesn't record me. Matter of fact, me, the wife, both sons, my sister, and brother-in-law all got GW2 and none of us use Xfire.

And to the fellow that said GW2 was F2P, it is actually B2P. F2P gives you the game for free + cash shop. B2P, like GW2 and TSW, makes you actually purchase the game. Huge difference in the end.

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Kisei
12.28.2012 , 01:38 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalfear View Post
Why doe sit matter?

Why is it so important to some people that for them to justify liking TOR means it has to be doing better then some other game?

Ill never understand that mentality.

Can honestly say I havent visited a GW2 forum, a WOW forum, or any number of other MMORPG forums/sites (excluding RIFT as RIFT latest expansion interests me so wanted to read up on features) because they all simply do not matter to me.

If they doing good ......congrats
if not so good.....really doesnt matter to me to be honest
Im focused on TOR and TOR alone at this point in time.

Who really cares if we have more or less then some other game?

Besides, EA put out the magic break even number long time ago, 500k active subscriptions long term. We know they fell below that already. Those other games numbers have no baring on TOR.
There's a very good reason why people feel they have to put down other games and talk up the games they play. Games die. They die because they don't get enough subscribers/purchases. There are only a limited number of potential subscribers and every additional MMO out there cuts into that number. If Wow or GW2 or whatever is doing great, then that's going to hurt your game to some extent. Most people don't subscribe to five different MMOs. If they are like me, they unsubscribe to the game they are currently playing before they move on to the next big thing. If the game you love starts losing subscribers then the company stops investing in new content or slows down and then a vicious cycle starts that ends with the game shutting down. It really sucks to be one of the last subscribers to a game. All your time and memories just go poof. So if you don't support my game then you are a dirty word insult and don't possess the same level of skill that I possess at staring at a screen and pushing buttons.