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Why IMPS are so bad? (PvP)


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Bronaimeth
12.26.2012 , 10:27 PM | #81
I don't think we ever complain of a 'lack of competition', the only thing we'll ever complain about is bad pugs, or the uncarriable 13k premades.

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jedimasterjac
12.26.2012 , 10:32 PM | #82
Maybe on your server. On Harbinger it's the Pubs that are awful
Quote: Originally Posted by Koozebane View Post
This isn't a couple of goobers out for some kicks. This is organized large team warfare by a single guild in a PVE zone.

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FailFitSloop
12.26.2012 , 11:11 PM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by jedimasterjac View Post
Maybe on your server. On Harbinger it's the Pubs that are awful
./clap its the JC server forums.
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Daskillz
12.26.2012 , 11:54 PM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by Tojo_Hammer View Post
Because all the good imps from Canderous Rerolled Pub (*Cough* LD50 *Cough*). So imps got stuck with the short end of the stick with terrabad imps coming from other servers. Only decent imps I've seen are the guys from Honor and occasionally the Try Hards.
There are still some good imps, but the imperials problem is simply battered wife syndrome. You guys are so used to losing that a lot of your players go to a WZ and don't give a damn. While on pub side there will always be players that are bad but they still try to win the game (most of the time). Nobody can really blame the pathetic state of imperial pvp on a handful of people who rerolled. It takes effort from the community to change the overall mentality.

People are a little too quick to place blame rather than fix their own crap these days.

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Tojo_Hammer
12.27.2012 , 12:53 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Daskillz View Post
There are still some good imps, but the imperials problem is simply battered wife syndrome. You guys are so used to losing that a lot of your players go to a WZ and don't give a damn. While on pub side there will always be players that are bad but they still try to win the game (most of the time). Nobody can really blame the pathetic state of imperial pvp on a handful of people who rerolled. It takes effort from the community to change the overall mentality.

People are a little too quick to place blame rather than fix their own crap these days.
Hm? I dont play imp side. I've been pub since before pub was cool. But thanks for the analysis :P?
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dtownpage
12.27.2012 , 11:55 AM | #86
I q my 7 toons every day and always run into watchmen / ld or an alt of ld / thunder cats (who by the way only super q regs havent seen them in a ranked yet) all morning. the afternoons are a little better because try hards and more of uncensored is on. but mornings are really rough. The only time i see healz is if im playing my healing toons. its pretty bad. i dunno whats going on with the dps not even topping 200k either but in general IMP pvp is terrible right now. If i see some guys that seem to know whats going on ill try to get a group going but without vent like the other guilds there is a lot of lag in convo. i dont even know how many times ive been the only one in the chat window for the whole match. I used to rage now i just laugh and run over to LD saying just 3 cap us so i can get my daily done quicker.
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dego-harmonium
12.27.2012 , 02:00 PM | #87
I did the same the other week, the whole team I was on in a CW was trying to zerg snow they left no one at mid so wanting to get out of the mess as soon as possible, "/say jagger cap mid there isnít anyone there, seriously"

Iíve noticed more healers in warzones recently but lately I generally only play a few games a day after I finish my daily , our biggest problem is DPS, I should never out dps a dps class that isnít guarding a node or something, and I frequently do with my odd grenade, shiv, and orbital strike. Thatís why I wish they gave pvp gear gimp stats and have expertise balance out the missing stats, I think we get alot of fail PvE'ers looking to grind out a decent set of gear, a WH set isnít horrible for pve, and now with its reduced costs people are going to flock to pvp to get a quick pve set. All things aside, if you canít break 300k in a full warzone you should look at playing another style of game, Iíve played in way to many games with multiple folks only hitting 170k or less
The pvp imbalance from CO carried over to JC, the pubs on CO were stacked with three very good pvp guilds, people re-rolling isnít the problem but it does compound it more when you remove talented players from an already weak faction then add them to the opposing team, I've read that paid transfers are currently high on their to do list, imp pvp will be even worse once they open that up.
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Krozis
12.28.2012 , 09:49 AM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by Daskillz View Post
Nobody can really blame the pathetic state of imperial pvp on a handful of people who rerolled. It takes effort from the community to change the overall mentality.

People are a little too quick to place blame rather than fix their own crap these days.
Overall I agree with you, but in general your statement reminds me of a river.... DeNile.

Name all of the Imp toons in your guild that re-rolled from Imp to Repside. I'll give you a few hours to think about it...

Ok, now name all the better Rep PvPers that re-rolled Impside. I'll give you 3 seconds on that one.

So yea, while I will agree that bad PVP is simply bad PVP there is no doubt where a lot of "competitive" PVPers went over the last several months (since Canderous Ordo). I can name a lot of them myself.

On the other hand, those of you better PVPers that did in fact roll Impside for the challenge, my hat's off to you. It's a real grind.
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dego-harmonium
12.28.2012 , 10:56 AM | #89
Not much you can do for most of the bads, just last night at the start of a hutball I politely told a guy wearing a mix of recruit gear and bad pve gear he was better off wearing his recruit set then sporting 300 expertise, then was abruptly called a noob and was told to **** by some superstar arsenal merc who was also sporting a cool 1000 expertise wearing a mix of colmni and WH Same goof trash talked the whole pub team while we controlled mid, which he wouldnt of been able to do without a pocked healer (me), soon as we went up a few points i just let the guy die,
Overall I do think the pubs are better, that being said I solo que some most nights and i pretty much think you just get stuck in bad warzone cylces some days, and get stuck with the same bads, and up against better teams, I do find that pubs that play saturday afternoon are by far the worst tho, i generally hammer out my weekly on my alts that day :P
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Krayshawn
12.28.2012 , 02:09 PM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Krozis View Post
Overall I agree with you, but in general your statement reminds me of a river.... DeNile.

Name all of the Imp toons in your guild that re-rolled from Imp to Repside. I'll give you a few hours to think about it...

Ok, now name all the better Rep PvPers that re-rolled Impside. I'll give you 3 seconds on that one.

So yea, while I will agree that bad PVP is simply bad PVP there is no doubt where a lot of "competitive" PVPers went over the last several months (since Canderous Ordo). I can name a lot of them myself.

On the other hand, those of you better PVPers that did in fact roll Impside for the challenge, my hat's off to you. It's a real grind.
My whole guild, Cell Block, Rerolled Imps now that we have come back... so there =p
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