Why can Sins combat stealth then use out of combat healing infront of you?

No I don't typically use them in duels, but I don't usually get butthurt if someone does use them. This combo that you're crying about is one of the ways Shadow was intended to be played. Did you never play WoW where rogues did a similar thing with vanish + sap + bandage? If a Shadow pulls this combo off on you, props to him and shame on you. This combo can be easily avoided and I described a few counters to it in an earlier post. It's not my fault if you don't try to find a way to counter it and just QQ instead.

You're steadfast in your belief and it won't be possible to change your outlook. It's indeed biased, as you keep digging for more grub to defend your outlook.

Fine.

But what's the point of continuing the argument then?

Because sorcs have been know to run out of force in duels? Because mercs and ops can't control their resources so they don't burn them up on self heals? Because marauders are somehow not able to attack due to lack of resources after using undying rage or stealth?

Go take your obvious bs argument where someone is stupid enough to believe that comment is even relevant, here in reality everybody knows the resource cost is more than manageable in duels and take your ******e attitude with you because we're here giving you facts not qq and ************

And yet you get butthurt if someone wants to duel with companions? Why? They just want to use every tool at their disposal to win, and according to you winning is all that matters.

Well for one thing, I don't get butthurt, and for two, you can't use companions in warzones? But if you want to take your companion out, I'll take mine out, that simple, you're really deviating from your original argument now... noone agrees with you... just stop.

The only fact is that self heals require usage of resources. Using a resource to heal means it's not being used to do damage. That is a fact. It doesn't matter how well you manage your resources, using an in combat heal requires resources that could have been used for dps.

OOC healing requires no resources, and in fact gives you resources.

Hence they are not the same thing. That is fact.

Kthxbye.

You can't use on use relics and attack adrenals in WZs either, but you've no problems with people using them in duels. See the hypocrisy?

My argument is that WZ =/= dueling, and you can set whatever rules you want in duels. So if someone wants to ban comps, then so be it. If someone wants to ban OOC heals, then so be it. Ban on use relics and attack adrenals? Fine. It's up to whoever is dueling. There is no right or wrong answer when it comes to dueling.

But you and the other idiots are trying to somehow equate WZs with dueling and trying to apply your own rules onto other people when it comes to dueling, but then get all butthurt and yell and whine when other people apply their own rules to you.

Probably because this combo that you are QQing about is built into the Shadow class. Companions are an external character, and relics/adrenals are external items, all of which you can not use in warzones. Yet this combo you are constantly complaining about can be used anywhere, without fail. You want to call it cheap, go ahead. However, if you posed such limitations on me, I'd probably tell you that you also can not use a certain ability combo if we duel, such as Combat Focus + Leap + Force Sweep, because it is so cheap! Your main argument for this is that because it requires resources it is fine while a Shadow's combo is cheap? Give me a break, resource management for most classes is laughably easy. You're just trying to find a technicality so that you can say only this combo is cheap.

The #1 difference? YOU'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT ABILITIES THAT A SHADOW HAS BY DEFAULT SAYING THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO USE THAT ABILITY IN DUELS.

Because it's dishonorable. We've been over this before.

well that was quite a entertaining thread, you should see the no of duels i open with a sap and start casting orbital makes the others panic and break cc, while i immediately re stealth and do it again when their resolve is gone, love it. Oh right you guys were whinging about shadows healing, well keep whinging.