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1 Year and not much content? Should be B2P...

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DaRoamer
12.26.2012 , 01:28 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Kazaganthis View Post
Just so you know dailies and a world boss arent "content" and neither is a NiM mode OP where all they did was buff life and damage and make you use a med pac but sure try to pad that list. KP and KUS were going to be in the game and almost done but EA pushed up the release date for christmas so dont act like they got that finished real quick for us. This game severely lacked any updates we went 6 months from 1.2 to 1.4. Now redo your list. Most people finished endgame here in less than 2 months hence why so many left and the biggest complaint has BEEN that theres NOTHING to do at 50.
This is completely false, I take it you don't raid. You want to see lack of content updates? Before WoW released MoP they went a YEAR without ANY content updates. A year. I quit AoC because so little content was released. When they finally did release something we had to pay for it.

There has been a lot of content released this year. I play daily and 90% of the time I'm on the same level 50 and I always have something to do. Sorry it's not the same for you.

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AdamChattaway
12.26.2012 , 01:29 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Perhaps not for you. But for the rest of us new bosses, missions & quest zones are called content. TOR averages a new content addition once every 6 weeks, be it a world event, Op, flashpoint, new planet zone, missions... Blizzard isn't even doing that. Neither is Turbine, NCSoft, Cryptic or Funcom.

I have 2 level 50s with a mix of Tionese & Rakata gear, and 2 level 40+s that are closing in on end game. Most people either don't power level, have a progression guild to carry them or possess your uberness. Translated, most people have not finished end game yet.

The reason people were leaving in February and March was because of Ilum crashes and the RWZ release delay. Other than Ilum end game had squat to do with it as there were 2 fresh Ops and an Op expansion (new wing with 4 additional bosses) in the first 3 patches. Since then they've focused more on the game itself: a customizable UI, RWZs, Legacy, Group Finder, Cartel store, etc...

Internet water army volunteers no longer have an effect here, and I for one am glad they don't.
Actually sir, LOTRO i currently play right now has an expansion every year and new zones with hundreds of quests every few months, what i meant by my OP is where is the new story? WE HAVE NO NEW STORY, a few dailys and a boss doe snot give me char progressing story and lvs, i do dailys 2x and am bored of the repetitive grind, that is not fun.
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GalacticKegger
12.26.2012 , 01:33 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by AdamChattaway View Post
Sorry are you comparing WOW server on Christmas eve, to TOR servers normally? im an EU player and i can tell you WOW EU has like 100 servers and half are active, thats 50x SWTOR, so either US hates wow nowadays or theres more Christians in the world myself had a good Christmas eve and Christmas, so oc people wont be on wow, measure wows servers in 2 days and swtor in 2 days.
I DID say North American servers ... and am glad to read you had a great Christmas. I did too.

What WoW does in Korea, South America or on Mars had no effect on where I rolled my Panda monk. I only had 7 options available to me for N. America.

My gift resub came from and old guildmate. My old guild moved to Mal'Ganis from Thorium Brotherhood because Thorium Brotherhood was dying. Mal'Ganis is a PvP server and it seems that many of the elite progression guilds have found a home there. While I enjoy the hell out of PvP, I don't enjoy getting camped and ganked when I quest.

The other servers I have toons on are genuine ghost towns. Org & SW are empty and the auction houses are bare. Ugh. I really don't want to disappoint my old guild friends, but I'm not going back after my 30 days. Especially after missing my TOR companions and reaquainting myself and the old click & go no-interaction quest system. Bored me to tears.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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DaRoamer
12.26.2012 , 01:33 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by AdamChattaway View Post
Actually sir, LOTRO i currently play right now has an expansion every year and new zones with hundreds of quests every few months, what i meant by my OP is where is the new story? WE HAVE NO NEW STORY, a few dailys and a boss doe snot give me char progressing story and lvs, i do dailys 2x and am bored of the repetitive grind, that is not fun.
How many quests does Makeb have? It'll also have a story.

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sstanks
12.26.2012 , 01:36 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Kazaganthis View Post
Just so you know dailies and a world boss arent "content" and neither is a NiM mode OP where all they did was buff life and damage and make you use a med pac but sure try to pad that list. KP and KUS were going to be in the game and almost done but EA pushed up the release date for christmas so dont act like they got that finished real quick for us. This game severely lacked any updates we went 6 months from 1.2 to 1.4. Now redo your list. Most people finished endgame here in less than 2 months hence why so many left and the biggest complaint has BEEN that theres NOTHING to do at 50.
wait how are Dallies and world bosses not content? Quests and new bosses are most defently content. I agree adding KP Nightmare isn't really content but they did add the rest of KP in 1.1.

You are also forgeting patch 1.3 in there kid. During that time between 1.2 and 1.4 we had 2 world events.

Of course even if you want to look at it as 6 months that is still shorter then the 11 months WoW has gone with out any content updates.

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sstanks
12.26.2012 , 01:38 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by AdamChattaway View Post
Actually sir, LOTRO i currently play right now has an expansion every year and new zones with hundreds of quests every few months, what i meant by my OP is where is the new story? WE HAVE NO NEW STORY, a few dailys and a boss doe snot give me char progressing story and lvs, i do dailys 2x and am bored of the repetitive grind, that is not fun.
I do agree that LotrO has done an amazing job with their F2P and expansions but keep in mind that is $40 for their expansion as compared to our $10. I will wait till see what is in this expansion and hopefully we will see SWTOR get expansions like LotrO. Remember the game has just been out for 1 year and it had a lot of growing pains but it seems to be on a much better track.

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seanisawake
12.26.2012 , 01:40 PM | #37
I still don't understand this argument about an MMO being dead because it only has < 1 million players.

WoW has 10 million players.... We get it. Those 10 million are stretched out across the timezones, continents, servers and factions. At any given time on a full server you are only playing with up too 2000 people.

CoD only has 300,000 on at a time, Halo 4 has 75,000. Its not the quantity that matters its the quality and SWTOR players are much better then the average WoW troll.
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GalacticKegger
12.26.2012 , 01:41 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by AdamChattaway View Post
Actually sir, LOTRO i currently play right now has an expansion every year and new zones with hundreds of quests every few months, what i meant by my OP is where is the new story? WE HAVE NO NEW STORY, a few dailys and a boss doe snot give me char progressing story and lvs, i do dailys 2x and am bored of the repetitive grind, that is not fun.
Were TOR's questing engine a simple click & go linear text library with a cut scene thrown in here & there they would likely have a ton of new story content. But they use voice animation with player decision trees ... stuff that isn't found canned on ACID CDs or DVDs. Theirs is a production - a MAJOR production. More VA dialogue than all 6 Star Wars movies combined if memory serves.

Some don't think the way Bioware is doing it is worth the trouble. That's cool. It is what it is, and if that means less frequent content but they keep the same VA presentation and in-presentation player decision interaction ... then I'm happy with less frequent content. I personally don't want TOR to play like the other MMOs - they can keep it. This game has spoiled me.

My wife & I retain our LOTRO VIP subs and have the Riders Legendary Edition. Turbine can add content as fast they do for the reasons I stated above. SWTOR is not the same game as LOTRO or WoW or GW2 or Rift or any other text-based cookie cutter MMORPG. So it won't have story additions released as fast as a text-based MMO.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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JoeeyyMagzz
12.26.2012 , 01:53 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by AdamChattaway View Post
They need to FIX the PVP issue with SWTOR, im a end game pvp player and i remade my chars on the PVE server for higher pop and no ganking, Ganking is NOT pvp, theres no skill or point of it just a way for kids to grief.
I'm sorry, but you're flat out wrong here. Maybe if someone just goes out for the sole purpose of ganking lowbies, but that's just plain stupid. There is way more skill involved in world pvp because you don't have 1200+ expertise to fall back on, and there is no objective that players are mindlessly running towards and bashing each other's faces in to get to. You have to skillfully figure out your escape routes, LoS points, mobs to use in your favor, etc. the second that someone jumps you. The best part is that because players typically do not wear their pvp gear while doing dailies, you don't get 2-3 shot in open world pvp. In a full on 1-2 minute fight between players, you definitely see who has more skill with their class; unlike warzones where you either win or lose a fight in 3-10 seconds, less if you are a juggernaut/guardian smash spec....

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JoeeyyMagzz
12.26.2012 , 02:05 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by seanisawake View Post
I still don't understand this argument about an MMO being dead because it only has < 1 million players.

WoW has 10 million players.... We get it. Those 10 million are stretched out across the timezones, continents, servers and factions. At any given time on a full server you are only playing with up too 2000 people.

CoD only has 300,000 on at a time, Halo 4 has 75,000. Its not the quantity that matters its the quality and SWTOR players are much better then the average WoW troll.
I love when people bring up that argument and mention games like LoTRO, AoC, SWG, Warhammer, or Rift... lol Those games never had a million subs at once, let alone kept a million subs. This game is very much alive, regardless of what the cry babies portray.