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1 Year and not much content? Should be B2P...

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1 Year and not much content? Should be B2P...

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AdamChattaway
12.26.2012 , 10:26 AM | #1
So yea the games been out 1 year but im worried about how little content they have added, they prob started this expansion before release like other games do with future content, but for a $10 expansion that is 1 planet we will complete in 2 days and NOT even individual storyline for each class but 2 story's for each faction it seems to me they are very much failing to deliver anything worthwhile for a years worth of sub, they still have a failed pointless open world pvp and this is why i rerolled on a pve server because why be ganked on a pvp server with no other reason?

At release i was a total fanboy and assured people they would add regular content liek they said but after 1 year and an upcoming mini expansion 1/10th size of a lotro expansion they bring out yearly im sad to say i agree with them now, they dont care or cant keep up with content demands of an mmo consumer and 1 planet a year is a total fail.

IMO they should go down FUNCOMS road with The Secret World and make the game BUY TO PLAY (too late now with f2p) and you should but the game for £30 and then all current content at release if free and expansions e.g. makeb you buy for £6 or whatever, no F2P crap and item stores, no restrictions, just you buy the game play it buy content dlc packs for future planets, funcom hit this on the head right here best method ive ever seen a game go down.

I don't see how they can stop this game from dying, there's nothing to do endgame once you bored of a few raids and repetitive arena pvp and sitting on fleet is so depressing and boring and NOT star wars, cities should be on planets like in SWG to grow community's and give life to the galaxy.

So i really hope they can change but as a massive star wars fan and mmo fan im sad to say i dont think this game will last much longer even the servers have died down from the F2P launch, and restricting 5 dam warzones a week is going to help population for 1-2 hours per week on the start of each week, then the rest of the 6 days will be as dead as ever (£21 month to buy weekly passes...)
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Nemmar
12.26.2012 , 10:36 AM | #2
Yeah... get back to us in another year. There were special circunstances delaying development this year.

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AdamChattaway
12.26.2012 , 10:37 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
Yeah... get back to us in another year. There were special circunstances delaying development this year.
? elaborate
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Monoth
12.26.2012 , 10:38 AM | #4
Given Funcom record with Age of Conan and the fact that TSW is not doing that great, I wouldn't suggest Bioware to copy them.

The switch to F2P probably put them a good 4-5 months behind with content updates. And we don't know the actual size and scope of Makeb, your assuming that because it costs $10 it won't be that big, it could be they knew there were going to get major flack for charging anything for Makeb since it was implied earlier that was going to be part of the subscription, that they decided to keep the price low to minimize the QQ'ers.. They have stated that the expansion is bigger then what was originally planned and that is why they decided to charge for it...

Until it comes out it's pure speculation. Could it be 2 days wroth of content? Sure it's very possible, it could be possible it has several weeks of content... Also 2 days worth of content for one person could be 2 months worth of content for another, not everyone sits in front of their computer playing 24/7

All that said i'm a bit skeptical myself given Bioware track record lately... But slamming something before you have a chance to see what their offering is a bit of "the sky is falling" mentality
F2P is like driving on a long stretch of highway with toll booths every 1/2 mile

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Holinyx
12.26.2012 , 10:44 AM | #5
MMOs generally don't throw out huge expansions in the first year of launch, and we have had some major updates in this past year. Yeah there are some people out there who rush through everything and complete it within a matter of days and then complain there is nothing to do. Then there is the casual gamer. That's me. I don't have 8 50s. I have not been 5/5 tfb since July. There is still so much for me to do i feel like i'll never get to the end. heck, i still haven't really touched the Republic side yet. Lo and behold, here comes an expansion. Even more for me to do. Awesome ! I can't think of any major MMOs (that are still around) that had major expansions in the first year. of course i never played WoW. but i did play Everquest for 8 years. From 1999-2001 (3 years) they only had 3 expansions. EQ is still alive, like 14 years later, with 19 expansions. I said alive, not thriving, lol. my point is that Swtor is on track for expansions. people will not agree with this but that is irrelevant. IMO this game has tons of content. stop hitting spacebar. you might actually enjoy the game more.
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GalacticKegger
12.26.2012 , 11:01 AM | #6
For the record (these are just the major points & does not include new gear additions) ... http://www.swtor.com/patchnotes

NEW CONTENT
1.1
Kaon Under Siege (FP)
Karagga's Palace (Op) wing expansion
Rise of the Rakghouls (multi-week world event)

1.2
Black Hole (lvl 50 Zone)
Explosive Conflict (Op)

1.3
World Boss weekly missions

1.4
Terror from Beyond (Op)

1.5
Section X (lvl 50 Zone)
Dreadtooth (World Boss)
Explosive Conflict (Op) nightmare mode
HK-51

1.6
Ancient Hypergate (WZ)
Weekly Heroic Space Missions

NEW FEATURES
1.2
Legacy
Customizable UI/Interface Editor*

1.3
Group Finder
Augment Slots
Ranked War Zones

1.5
F2P & Cartel Market

1.6
Artifact (purples) starship upgrades

* A friend gave me a 30-day WoW resub to come party with the guild as a Christmas present; but this time I played without addons. There is nothing a player can do with WoW's UI except add a couple more bars. They can't be moved around or resized. Need Bartender for that. The layout itself looked like a plageurization of LOTRO's UI ... just can't do anything with it.

After taking 3 hours to complete the Pandarean starting area with a monk it was back to Orgrimmar and the same old WoW. The new 85 - 90 PvE content is okay, but every raider in the guild had completed everything up to the Mogu'Shan Vaults - and already had 4/6 bosses down - in less than a week. If WoW remains the industry benchmark then the industry has issues.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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AdamChattaway
12.26.2012 , 11:15 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Monoth View Post
Given Funcom record with Age of Conan and the fact that TSW is not doing that great, I wouldn't suggest Bioware to copy them.

The switch to F2P probably put them a good 4-5 months behind with content updates. And we don't know the actual size and scope of Makeb, your assuming that because it costs $10 it won't be that big, it could be they knew there were going to get major flack for charging anything for Makeb since it was implied earlier that was going to be part of the subscription, that they decided to keep the price low to minimize the QQ'ers.. They have stated that the expansion is bigger then what was originally planned and that is why they decided to charge for it...

Until it comes out it's pure speculation. Could it be 2 days wroth of content? Sure it's very possible, it could be possible it has several weeks of content... Also 2 days worth of content for one person could be 2 months worth of content for another, not everyone sits in front of their computer playing 24/7

All that said i'm a bit skeptical myself given Bioware track record lately... But slamming something before you have a chance to see what their offering is a bit of "the sky is falling" mentality
TSW was a fun game and failed because it had no end game content the same as why SWTOR died after 3 months, TSW went B2P now has a lot more people playing it and now they can buy dlc packs every few weeks, SWTOR should have gone the same way, people quit swtor for the exact same reasons as TSW remember that.
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GalacticKegger
12.26.2012 , 11:16 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by AdamChattaway View Post
TSW was a fun game and failed because it had no end game content the same as why SWTOR died after 3 months, TSW went B2P now has a lot more people playing it and now they can buy dlc packs every few weeks, SWTOR should have gone the same way, people quit swtor for the exact same reasons as TSW remember that.
Ummm ... okay. SWTOR released 2 new end game Ops and an Op wing expansion in its first 4 patches.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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kevlarto
12.26.2012 , 11:18 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
For the record (these are just the major points) ... http://www.swtor.com/patchnotes

NEW CONTENT
1.1
Kaon Under Siege (FP)
Karagga's Palace (Op) wing expansion
Rise of the Rakghouls (multi-week world event)

1.2
Black Hole (lvl 50 Zone)
Explosive Conflict (Op)

1.3
World Boss weekly missions

1.4
Terror from Beyond (Op)

1.5
Section X (lvl 50 Zone)
Dreadtooth (World Boss)
Explosive Conflict (Op) nightmare mode
HK-51

1.6
Ancient Hypergate (WZ)
Weekly Heroic Space Missions

NEW FEATURES
1.2
Legacy
Customizable UI/Interface Editor*

1.3
Group Finder
Augment Slots
Ranked War Zones

1.5
F2P & Cartel Market

1.6
Artifact (purples) starship upgrades

* A friend gave me a 30-day WoW resub to come party with the guild as a Christmas present; but this time I played without addons. There is nothing a player can do with WoW's UI except add a couple more bars. They can't be moved around or resized. Need Bartender for that. The layout itself looked like a plageurization of LOTRO's UI ... just can't do anything with it.

After taking 3 hours to complete the Pandarean starting area with a monk it was back to Orgrimmar and the same old WoW. The new 85 - 90 PvE content is okay, but every raider in the guild had completed everything up to the Mogu'Shan Vaults - and already had 4/6 bosses down - in less than a week. If WoW remains the industry benchmark then the industry has issues.



The industry has had issues for awhile, I think allot of folks are just starting to see it, and realize the wow play model is getting old and tired to allot of folks, scrtipted content will only get you so far, time the industry opened up to some other ideas and start giving the players more options. I read things here directed at TOR, but allot of the complaints and problems could be directed at 99% of the current games on the market, we don't have a TOR problem we have an mmo genre problem..
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AdamChattaway
12.26.2012 , 11:20 AM | #10
They need to FIX the PVP issue with SWTOR, im a end game pvp player and i remade my chars on the PVE server for higher pop and no ganking, Ganking is NOT pvp, theres no skill or point of it just a way for kids to grief.

Ilum was a disaster and the HERO engine bioware broke cant handle large medium or small scale lol open world pvp, where is the GW2 style capture and hold forts and kill npc bosses to take them over, they could have gone as basic as a warhammer online tier 4 zone for ilum giving competitive faction vs faction 24/7 open world pvp, but all we are reduced to is warzones, so i may as well play on a pve server,.
Electronic Arts, Inc...Nowhere else in the galaxy will you find such a wretched hive of scum and villainy.