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Bioware, we find your lack of imformation disturbing..

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Bioware, we find your lack of imformation disturbing..

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Fornix
12.24.2012 , 04:17 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by iamthehoyden View Post
I think you do a lot of the people looking for more information a disservice. The reason you're seeing some questions asked multiple times when they were answered months and months and months ago is that it is fairly clear that what's on the table has changed with f2p. For example, Makeb was originally talked about as being a large piece of content free to subscribers. That is no longer the case.

What is being developed has obviously changed, but we don't know what's still in the works and what's not. It is not unreasonable to want that clarified. So a current confirmation of content that's in the works or a "we had planned to put that in, but it's not coming, sorry, folks" would do a lot to clarify what's coming.
All of these quotes given, were quotes from roughly 4 - 7 days ago, not quotes from something months ago. It are answers given to the threads people post up. Yet, people keep on answering the same questions, even though BioWare has already given them a recent, up-to-date answer.

And concidering as to how the initial anouncement of Makeb included very little details, what exactly is it of which we are unsure of it still being in the works or not?
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siegedeluxe
12.24.2012 , 04:30 PM | #62
BioWare no longer exists, it's just EA now.

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Eurynamous
12.24.2012 , 04:32 PM | #63
I agree but to a limited extent. I am a firm believer in transparency but I also understand the necessity to not let the cat out of the bag.

Now, for core mechanic improvements, size of content, expected playtime, additional minor features, species unlocks, new vehicles and the such, by all means, share. These things are unique to the Star Wars MMO universe and would be hard to replicate in any other mmo.

For major content and mechanical changes/updated, this needs to be kept under wraps. For three important reasons...

1) Stop the idea from being imemented into another game and risk the chance of it being reiterated into something better.

2) The Hook that players did not expect. An oh wow, I did not see that coming, well done. That's very important and worth taking a risk on.

3) What if it can't be done. What if the idea, once executed, no longer seems like a good thing to implement. What if it just doesn't work as intended? It has to be cut and players were expecting it.
(Diablo 2 Guild houses and clan tags is a prime example)

It's how it will have to be, because in all honesty, it's better this way.
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Trenter
12.24.2012 , 05:33 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Avengerfx View Post
So please stop with the super secret plans every time you are asked any questions in interviews or Q&As open up and give us the information we are looking for, at least enough to give us hope for the future.
It doesn't work, mate. I hear what you're saying, definitely. I'd love to hear more on what lies ahead and what they have planned. But it won't work. There are people who can't accept that things change. Makeb is the most recent example. It was a huge free content patch, planned to hit late 2012 I reckon, since it was featured in the "coming soon to SWTOR" trailer. A lot of people left the game however and they had to adapt and switch to a different business model and with the new business model Makeb would no longer be free. They gave out info they couldn't deliver on and look what happened. My guess is they won't try that again for quite a while. There'll be less info, not more. That's what I'm betting on atleast.
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iamthehoyden
12.26.2012 , 09:16 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Fornix View Post
All of these quotes given, were quotes from roughly 4 - 7 days ago, not quotes from something months ago. It are answers given to the threads people post up. Yet, people keep on answering the same questions, even though BioWare has already given them a recent, up-to-date answer.

And concidering as to how the initial anouncement of Makeb included very little details, what exactly is it of which we are unsure of it still being in the works or not?
I was referring to long-standing issues, not only the recent situation. BW's lack of communication with Makeb is part of a larger, more entrenched pattern of not addressing the concerns of the players. Many groups have been waiting months and months to receive even confirmation that the game element they're interested in is still in development.
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RepublicPilot
12.26.2012 , 09:31 AM | #66
Game doesn't have the funding to roll out high quality content regularly anymore, EA have blacklisted the game as a failure already and before the bioware doctors fled they slammed F2P models for not being able to invest in the same way as a subscriber model.

For now, we'll hear nothing if the 3 or 4 left over community reps aren't around - most of the people were fired or just left so they're operating a skeleton crew in comparison to what they had this time last year. I sense a lot of patch notes with a list of cartel market additions/discounts outweighing the list of actual content/QOL features or bug fixes.

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arunav
12.26.2012 , 10:47 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by RepublicPilot View Post
Game doesn't have the funding to roll out high quality content regularly anymore, EA have blacklisted the game as a failure already and before the bioware doctors fled they slammed F2P models for not being able to invest in the same way as a subscriber model.

For now, we'll hear nothing if the 3 or 4 left over community reps aren't around - most of the people were fired or just left so they're operating a skeleton crew in comparison to what they had this time last year. I sense a lot of patch notes with a list of cartel market additions/discounts outweighing the list of actual content/QOL features or bug fixes.
This is why I cancelled. Until it becomes clear regular, quality content is making its way into the game, and bugs are kept to the standard they were before F2P, I can't support SWTOR any longer. And that's even though I really enjoy what the game generally is and its potential.

I simply have lost faith EA is investing into making SWTOR better. It seems like they are trying to use what content they have to generate as much revenue as possible on the cash shop side, and from a very short-run perspective.

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Costello
12.26.2012 , 11:01 AM | #68
I would love to know what the next update is going to be.

So far of the things promised for 2012 we have seen space, which was awful and even worse was the implamentation of the new gear in the cartel market. We have seen the warzone, we have seen the new area and companion. We know Mekab will be a pay to play expansion coming sometime in spring and we know the Cathar will be a cartel market item. Yet we have no clear idea of what the next update is going to be or even really what will be rolled out as part of he game for subscribers in the next year. Cathar, Makeb and anything in the cartel market good or bad should not be considered subscrber content as you have to pay for it.

We have accepted the excuses of restructing and the launch of free to play as why there has been so little new content but what is next? It seems to be very little information for the devs and little concern by them over building any sort of communication with the community.

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Nitblade
12.26.2012 , 05:29 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Costello View Post
We know Mekab will be a pay to play expansion coming sometime in spring and we know the Cathar will be a cartel market item. Yet we have no clear idea of what the next update is going to be or even really what will be rolled out as part of the game for subscribers in the next year. Cathar, Makeb and anything in the cartel market good or bad should not be considered subscriber content as you have to pay for it.
Quick answer...Nothing
It's what I expect, considering the way the new lead is going where they suddenly call a big update into an expansion just to rake some more money out of the already paying customer. And forget about paying with Cartel Coin if you're a Subscriber, it's not bringing new money so expect cash only
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Brexten
12.26.2012 , 07:06 PM | #70
Sadly have to agree with the OP
We do not ask for definite dead lines or a detailed five year plan or something like that.
But just some confirmation. If certain things aren't beeing made then simply say so... Do not leave
us in the dark! Frustration is afterall only negative for this or any game :/