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Dear Bioware a better F2P model will make you money !

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Dear Bioware a better F2P model will make you money !

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Spooler
12.26.2012 , 08:21 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
And what will giving them unlimited access do exactly? If I could play the game without restrictions, I would drop my sub (as would everyone else) and likely never spend another dime on this game again (as would most others). I'm sorry, but I'd rather not completely kill the game so your cheap buddies can get the same amount of access that my $15 per month buys.
I wouldn't drop my sub if you game me an allocation of cartel points = to the cost of the sub or maybe just over + continued discounts on future expansions.

There's a ton of ways you could get around this issue and make people who have subs feel valued, honestly my biggest concern is grouping/que times take forever I feel as tho Bioware should be doing as much as they can to make the game convenient for me, the problem low active player count the solution should be to get as many people in as possible before I unsub because it takes me 20 minutes to get into a group.

The better the games free to play structure the more time people invest the more time people invest the more they spend on micro transactions.
Also the more people playing the more alive the game-world feels and the more time people want to spend in it.

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Spooler
12.26.2012 , 08:25 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
If cost doesn't bother you, pay for your friends subs or buy and gift them weekly passes to stuff. Also, if they gave F2Pers the access you request, the game would die a lot sooner than 1-2 years. It would have tons of players (freeloaders), but it would still be shut down due to lack of profit.
Interesting how most of the revenue for games comes from micro transactions now Team fortress and the hat store spring to mind.

claiming cosmetic micro-transactions would not be profitable is silly.
even non cosmetic things increasing your carry capacity buying level 1 speeder access, leveling gear, all kinds of things can be done to make a profit without subs saying "no subs, no money" is ignorant at best

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Vlacke
12.26.2012 , 08:26 AM | #23
If your friends like this game but in the same time are so cheap that they aren't willing to spend 5$ in the cartel market for preferred status then they should play something else.
The restrictions for the most part are good and working as intended, because the idea is that those who subscribe get much more than those who want to save their money, as it should be, shocking, i know.

One of my friends stopped subscribing because of some temporary money problems, but he plays as preferred for now and buys an occasional unlock or authorization here and there without ************ about it and barking at Bioware how everything should be free and handed to him on a bloody silver platter.
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ElitehunterDS
12.26.2012 , 08:29 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Spooler View Post
the problem low active player count the solution should be to get as many people in as possible before I unsub because it takes me 20 minutes to get into a group.
That make no sense.. if you add more players the % of Tank/heals wont change, we already seen that with the first server merge.
2 heals -----> 20 tanks
2 tanks ------> 20 heals
10 dps -------> 100 dps

Just reroll a tank/heal if you arent happy with queue time and love to over-exaggerate, my queue are less than 10 min and il be a dps forever.
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Jandie
12.26.2012 , 08:30 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Spooler View Post
I feel as tho Bioware should be doing as much as they can to make the game convenient for me
If every player felt this way there would never be a game to play. Get over yourself, if you don't like the f2p restrictions and you don't want to pay your sub then there are other games.

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Spooler
12.26.2012 , 08:31 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by ElitehunterDS View Post
That make no sense.. if you add more players the % of Tank/heals wont change, we already seen that with the first server merge.
2 heals -----> 20 tanks
2 tanks ------> 20 heals
10 dps -------> 100 dps

Just reroll a tank/heal if you arent happy with queue time and love to over-exaggerate, my queue are less than 10 min and il be a dps forever.
< main is a tank alt is a healer, both get long arse ques

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Hassat-Hunter
12.26.2012 , 08:34 AM | #27
Then you must do something wrong... like only play when everyone else is sleeping or something, or be an Euro on a US server.

I as DPS on the Red Eclipse never have to wait very long... the server is already overcrowded with people...

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Spooler
12.26.2012 , 08:34 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Jandie View Post
If every player felt this way there would never be a game to play. Get over yourself, if you don't like the f2p restrictions and you don't want to pay your sub then there are other games.
^ I pay a sub read the thread.
As someone who has paid since and even before (pre order) day one I feel bioware should provide a decent play experience.

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JamieKirby
12.26.2012 , 08:36 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Spooler View Post
Bioware I love you, you guys have given us some truely epic games but the current F2P model stinks.

As a subscriber it's annoying playing with people that are so limited in so many ways, it would be great for yourselves and your community to remove the restrictions on the F2P model and encourage people to sub in other ways or even get rid of subs all together and replace them with micro transactions.

In doing this you need to remember Pay to win is never the solution cartel points and cosmetic upgrades are however , tho having said that a set of bind on account leveling gear for 10-20 USD would probably sell like hot cakes.
Sorry, but if someone can get something for free, there is no way in hell they will pay......in the end, its human nature to look for the cheapest solution regardless of its outcome.

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Spooler
12.26.2012 , 08:39 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by JamieKirby View Post
Sorry, but if someone can get something for free, there is no way in hell they will pay......in the end, its human nature to look for the cheapest solution regardless of its outcome.
I'd pay for micro-transaction stuff, I say that because I do the inventory space across all toons is amazing for starting alts and some of the cosmetic fluff is cool too.

if your statement were true no one would buy games or see movies in cinemas they would just pirate them.