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Dear Bioware a better F2P model will make you money !

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Dear Bioware a better F2P model will make you money !
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Vlacke
12.26.2012 , 08:12 AM | #11
Your friends who are f2p can either subscribe or stop being cheap and actually buy something from the cartel market if they like the game.
Anything they buy will give them preferred status which is much better than full f2p.
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Galbatorrix
12.26.2012 , 08:12 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Spooler View Post
No i'd like to be able to play with my non sub friends in a less restricted manner.

If bioware wants the game to be successful they are going to need to take steps to ensure it is, your sense of "I pay money entitlement is just silly. Treating F2P players like second citizens instead of prospective customers is doing things the wrong way and will not encourage them to hang around and pay more to get the rest of what they were offered.
And what will giving them unlimited access do exactly? If I could play the game without restrictions, I would drop my sub (as would everyone else) and likely never spend another dime on this game again (as would most others). I'm sorry, but I'd rather not completely kill the game so your cheap buddies can get the same amount of access that my $15 per month buys.

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Howrus
12.26.2012 , 08:13 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Spooler View Post
No i'd like to be able to play with my non sub friends in a less restricted manner.
Buy them subscription)
And on your free time - think some other way to get more people subscribe without limiting them.
If you will found it, you will be very-very rich. Because right now all people do is searching new way to play and not to pay.

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Spooler
12.26.2012 , 08:13 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Jandie View Post
Lol nice try OP but I think you showed your true intentions. The whole 'I'll speak up for the f2p players' is so transparent. If you don't want to sub just cancel but don't try to play the hero card.
I have no intent nor have I stated I have an intent to drop my sub for all you know stop making silly assumptions Sherlock.
I want the following, for ToR to not shut down in 1-2 years when it's deemed no longer profitable due to a minuscule player base.
And to better enjoy my online experience cost does not bother me

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AidanLightwalker
12.26.2012 , 08:14 AM | #15
as a day 1 subscriber its just fine! I don't want to be micro transactioned to death. Most people who post this are subbers who want to drop their sub and get the same experience. If you want to enjoy your time more with your f2p friends, encourage them to sub or pay their sub. Don't devalue our experience because your friends are cheap.
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Master-Nala
12.26.2012 , 08:14 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Spooler View Post
Bioware I love you, you guys have given us some truely epic games but the current F2P model stinks.

As a subscriber it's annoying playing with people that are so limited in so many ways, it would be great for yourselves and your community to remove the restrictions on the F2P model and encourage people to sub in other ways or even get rid of subs all together and replace them with micro transactions.

In doing this you need to remember Pay to win is never the solution cartel points and cosmetic upgrades are however , tho having said that a set of bind on account leveling gear for 10-20 USD would probably sell like hot cakes.
Could you be more specific? I'm going to assume that you have reasonable intent. Are you really suggesting that they remove all F2P restrictions? Because no game that has an optional sub does that. How is it hard for your as a subscriber to play with F2P people?

Frankly, saying "get rid of all restrictions" does sound like you just want to unsub and still play with no restrictions.
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A_nonymous
12.26.2012 , 08:14 AM | #17
I think they should adopt a model similar to DCUO (though to be fair that model may not be making them money). Basically subs get everything (including new content) for free. There are free people, people who don't sub but pay money and subs. If you don't sub, you get nickel and dimed for everything. Everything in the in game cash store is cosmetic/convenience.
Gunwalker Legacy FTW.

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Jandie
12.26.2012 , 08:16 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Spooler View Post
Bioware I love you, you guys have given us some truely epic games but the current F2P model stinks.

As a subscriber it's annoying playing with people that are so limited in so many ways, it would be great for yourselves and your community to remove the restrictions on the F2P model and encourage people to sub in other ways or even get rid of subs all together and replace them with micro transactions.

In doing this you need to remember Pay to win is never the solution cartel points and cosmetic upgrades are however , tho having said that a set of bind on account leveling gear for 10-20 USD would probably sell like hot cakes.
Well done translating!:

Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Translation: Bioware, I really want to drop my sub, but I love PVP. I really think I should be able to PVP, wear purples, etc without having to pay you a dime. Can you please make that happen so I can save the $15 per month?
Yep I think you hit the OP intentions perfectly.

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Galbatorrix
12.26.2012 , 08:16 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Spooler View Post
I have no intent nor have I stated I have an intent to drop my sub for all you know stop making silly assumptions Sherlock.
I want the following, for ToR to not shut down in 1-2 years when it's deemed no longer profitable due to a minuscule player base.
And to better enjoy my online experience cost does not bother me


If cost doesn't bother you, pay for your friends subs or buy and gift them weekly passes to stuff. Also, if they gave F2Pers the access you request, the game would die a lot sooner than 1-2 years. It would have tons of players (freeloaders), but it would still be shut down due to lack of profit.

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AidanLightwalker
12.26.2012 , 08:17 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Spooler View Post
I have no intent nor have I stated I have an intent to drop my sub for all you know stop making silly assumptions Sherlock.
I want the following, for ToR to not shut down in 1-2 years when it's deemed no longer profitable due to a minuscule player base.
And to better enjoy my online experience cost does not bother me
news flash honey, tor will still be here in 1-2 years. nice try. why? because of people like me who love this game and aren't afraid to shell out a little cash to help the developers out.
Even the smallest of light sources can light up the darkness.
Nyren - Combat Sentinel Ewenn - Shield Vanguard
Kyrenn - Scoundrel SawbonesSyrenn - Telekinetics Sage
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