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Star Wars vs WH40K


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Gwal
02.12.2012 , 09:53 AM | #261
Quote: Originally Posted by Archereon View Post
While its obvious the Imperium would curbstomp pretty much any SW nation in a land war, Star Wars has one incredible advantage over 40k: It's FTL travel and communications are infinitely faster and more reliable than that of the Imperium.

In fact, Hyperdrives are so fast that Star Wars ships would be able to outmaneuver everyone in 40k besides the Necrons and Eldar, who, respectively, have the problems of most of their assets being inactive and having a really small population.

I'm not all that sure about how powerful 40k starships are, though from what I know they aren't that much more powerful than Star Wars ships if they're even more powerful at all.

Having such a huge mobility advantage also has the nice benefit of marginalizing the Space Marines outside of their home systems, and would pretty much allow a Star Wars power to go around sterilizing Agri worlds until all the Forge and Hive worlds were crippled by famine. It also makes Impeium forces particularly vulnerable to the effects of attrition, since they can't resupply their forces in a timely manner.
See the difference here, is why WH40k explains it's economy and democracy Star Wars goes out of it's way to ignore that side of the fluff. They just assume things like food water and fuel are plentiful and always availiable where as WH40K has people fighting for something other than ideology.

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siegedeluxe
02.12.2012 , 10:50 AM | #262
Mobility is not a problem here. You all base this on the fact that these two galaxies are very close to each other. The Imperium only has to send a fleet of ships to the core words (It will take time, but by the time they are there, the core worlds won't have anything to defend against) as the military strength of the Imperium is much more streonger than SW. All the Imperium has to do is to reinforce their worlds and wait for the Empire / Republic fleets to attack.

SW would lose.

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Lordgeneral
02.12.2012 , 11:11 AM | #263
Quote: Originally Posted by internaty View Post
It depends on how you want to compair.

I terms of sheer strenth of arms the 40K win without a doudt.

I terms of everything else.
Star wars.

Also i like to point out that imperial gaurd is the counter part of a storm trooper and not the space marine's,

Space marine's would have to be countered by commando's, dark troopers etc.

Now i terms of culture star wars would win.
And if we had to merge the two galaxie enemies wont stop fighting eatchother just because more are added.

While i dont doudt that ctan gods are powerfull there also starving any sith or jedi would simply let them starve.

The emperor is stuck to this throne and if however unlike he was assasinated it would disabled all imperium space travel where hyperdrive's still work.

Add to that while the space marine's are perhaps the deadly's warrior's in this topic they are xenophobic and close minded.

A jedi is open minded and seeks understanding and are thus able to gain countless of allies.

Now given the fact the imperial gaurd can surviver(with heavy losses) agains numberless threat's of space i dont doudt that the star wars troops can also survive agains the same threats(with the same losses).

And i cant stress this enought.

Space marine's are not equile to jedi.

They are great warrior's but so are dark trooper's commando's mandilorains(all beaten)
A jedi is not invicebol but is far more likely to survive purely because of the force guiding them.

Both jedi and sith are probley equal to a liberian/socceror.

Powerfull but not invicebol and more importaned there accauly smart.

Now as for the demons and the chaos powers.

The chaos powers are to busy killing eatchother to care for the meterial world and are unable to cross into the meterial realm without help.

i cant really say much on the chaos gods without playing the god card so i wont argue about them.

The tyranids are beated by sw the same way 40K beats them.

The necrons are like the trade federation(tho stronger weapons) and thus easy to beat using basic militery tatic's(all factions)

And the eldar are beaten by sw the same way 40K beats them.

Also all remains eatchothers enemies so you never know who might screw you next.

That said:

The short answer star wars is smarter while 40k is stronger.

On related note.

Borg(star trek) angels(real life) dimigods(me) god(the almighty) could beat the crap out of all the prenamed factions.

Space marines have ships that can disperse a planets atmosphere due to its size...i love both universes but super star destroyer is a toy compared to these ships. Chaos, @ the omment that chaos will just fight each other, no do you know anything that chaos does? They have daemons and infinite amounts of devotees at their hands ready to destroy at their masters wills. Not to mention the gods. Throw all the other 40k races in the star wars universe and you got total chaos. 40K would be the winner but then the races would resort to fighting each other again.

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Bobinator
02.12.2012 , 11:15 AM | #264
I like 40k more...due to the books and the lore.
As of right now, i'm rash free.

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Warmaster_Vigor
12.26.2012 , 01:56 AM | #265
im sorry everyone but if 40k and Star wars came to blows then you might as well bury Star wars right now

their ships are bigger and their are more of them

they have THE most nastest armies in the gaming universes

the death star is nothing compaired to the both the power of the planet killer and the black stone fortrasses

and where Star Wars has marality the 40k universe has none they will give no quater and wouldnt want any in return
the only thing the 40k universe has known in the past 50 thousand years has been nothing but war and as such is more than geared up for it

now thatss just the imperial side of things the other side is that the other races in the 40k universe are all equal in the fact that they would be more than happy to rip the hear out of any enemy they came to blows with
(please forgive the spelling mistakes)

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internaty
12.26.2012 , 02:59 AM | #266
Quote: Originally Posted by Lordgeneral View Post
Space marines have ships that can disperse a planets atmosphere due to its size...i love both universes but super star destroyer is a toy compared to these ships. Chaos, @ the omment that chaos will just fight each other, no do you know anything that chaos does? They have daemons and infinite amounts of devotees at their hands ready to destroy at their masters wills. Not to mention the gods. Throw all the other 40k races in the star wars universe and you got total chaos. 40K would be the winner but then the races would resort to fighting each other again.
Again you asume 40k is going to focus on the star wars armies.
Between the imperial of man, chaos, tyranids, eldar, necro's and who know's what else killing eatchother.

It is quiet possibol for star wars to survive.

And if you read correctly i never said they could win militery speaking(second line)

The star wars universe much rely on staying below the threat radar until they can level the field.
knowledge is power.
use it well.

Good players take any and all advantages they can get, actually. It's why they are good.

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Warmaster_Vigor
12.26.2012 , 08:19 AM | #267
Quote: Originally Posted by internaty View Post
Again you asume 40k is going to focus on the star wars armies.
Between the imperial of man, chaos, tyranids, eldar, necro's and who know's what else killing eatchother.

It is quiet possibol for star wars to survive.

And if you read correctly i never said they could win militery speaking(second line)

The star wars universe much rely on staying below the threat radar until they can level the field.
i was under the impression that it would be the 40k universe vs the Starwars one if so
then 40k will be bringing all the enemies of the imperium into the fray aswell, the armies of the imperium could just sit back and watch the carnage from orbit and let one of the other races do the ground pounding while they just happley sit their and watch the fun on the sirface of any planet they hit, having said that if the tyranids came out of the warp on any planet the space battle would be short and sweet as the average Tyranid fleet size consists of over 10,000 ships of all different shapes and sizes, the standing armies of the planet would be subdued in less that 3 days based on the fact that the SW fortifications arent as sturdy as the 40k ones, within an hour 2 million tryanid creatures would be on the planet and the atmosfear would start to turn toxic, and within 1 week the planet (unless considerable reinforments are sent to help) the planet is left as a lifeless rock with no air, water or dirt left on the planet sirface as they move onto their next target or targets depending on what the hive mind deems to happen after that first planet is destroyed
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Warmaster_Vigor
12.26.2012 , 08:40 AM | #268
ok now if 40k hit the SW universe everyone thinks its going to be the imperium that will hit them first, lets say they sit it out and left to the other races to play with SW and in my previous post i mentioned the tyranids so this time im going go bring the Dark Eldar into the fray, the sith lords will know fear like nothing before a they find that their Starships both out paced and out manovered by those of the Dark Eldar, as well as the weapons that have been known to smash most space defences into peaces with nearly no or little losses to them, on the ground the Dark Eldar's lightning fast strikes and weapons would reap a heavy tole on a armoured coloum, any and all captured men women and children wouldnt servive the encounter for very long as the hemonculases get to work on them, they are the only race in the 40k universe that sole focus is piracy and as such wouldnt be able to stand against a large army but isolated pockets of populas wouldnt stand a chance

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Warmaster_Vigor
12.26.2012 , 08:59 AM | #269
ok now im going to bring the forces of Chaos to bare against Starwars, ok for starters the chaos fleets sport more fire power than that of the Starwars universe the death star isnt as small or as manoverable as the Planet killer, and isnt as destructive as the Black Stone fortrices are considering they have the power to send stars supernova, space battles would be based on heavy guns and shields that are designed to take damage against weapons that are capable of ripping a planets crust apart, so losses will be minimal on the ground the Lost and the Damned would be the cannon fodder of the chaos forces as they throw themselves at the armies of Starwars to soften them up for their masters ''Traitor legions of chaos space marines'' now everyone is on about how good the AT AT is now compaired to the 40k equivilent its nothing but a 4 legged coffin, out of the titan legions strengh the one that i can think of being the closest titan i can think of that is a even match for the AT AT is the warhound titan even then the AT AT is out classed because the Warhound is faster and more manoverable and carries the same type of shielding as their ships do, now if you want to talk about sith and jedi vs the powers of chaos then we are talking about the 4 gods of chaos and their patren armies and ideals fighting as one against Starwars so nurgle's plagues, slannesh's pleasures, khorn's blood lust and tzeench's ever changing ways uniteing against the jedi and sith, the sith would be the first to fall to the powers of chaos, its alure of promissed power and immortality is enough for most mortals to fall
the jedi wouldnt stand up for very long ether their want to study their enemy would be their downfall as the curuption of chaos is absolute and cant be resisted for long. im sorry Starwars fans but there wouldnt be a single way for Starwars to win in a battle against the forces of chaos

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Warmaster_Vigor
12.26.2012 , 09:12 AM | #270
here is a little size comparison for you http://http://www.google.co.uk/imgre...9QEwBA&dur=238