We have more players than GW2?

When I reinstalled and came back it was nice to see 250+ in fleet and even getting put into a second instance of Fleet. PvP queues are fast even if mostly same side battles. FP queues are also fast for all levels, not just at 50 but thats even faster. Even in the starting planets Im seeing 100+ players which means people are coming back or at least making alts. Then I log over to GW2. I see no one in any of the towns. World vs World PvP queues used to take hours to pop and are now instant. I am lucky if I see maybe 7-8 other players a day while questing. I thought Bioware did a poor job with this game at launch but it seems Arena Net got them off the hook by making GW2 even worse.

From my limited time on GW2, I felt that the game was pretty and had alot of fluff in the sense of things to see and listen to.

Once you got past the fluff (puzzles, jumping, vista points) it was just a boring PvE game with a world pvp endgame. Not even sure there's anything else to do atm. You can only attack a keeps walls for so long before you get bored of it.

Oh and I hated the combat system, always felt like I was waitting on CD's with my Necro. I also hated the fact that there was no pure healer spec's as that's what I enjoy doing in PvP. DPS bores me after a while.

No clue on how it's doing though, but I doubt it's doing badly.

I have GW2 and do not play it. I find no reason at all to log into SWTOR or the forums and bash their game. Now excuse me while I keep on playing SWTOR.

GW 2 has lost a lot of its active players once they hit the level cap. However, that's not a very good comparison, since you can expect most of them to come back to the game once content updates appear (such as the one coming early 2013). It is, after all, a B2P game

I don't know what GW2 game you're playing but that game still has queue's for WVW and multiple instances of Lions Arch where everyone gathers. That games player-base hasn't dwindled much at all.

I learned that from GW1 already, which is why I simply didn't buy GW2. Their endgame is very much focussed on PvP, though I must say, their PvP is pretty interresting. PvE and solocontent does exist at levelcap, but it definitely wasn't something they really focussed on. So it seems GW2 is indeed similar to GW1 in that regard. I don't mind, it's a good game, but it's just not my kind of game.

very well said. That is a good acessment of the game.

Guild Wars 2 has been in steep decline but from my sources it still has more active players than SWTOR. I guess they need to think about merging those servers. With that said, its an F2P game since the start with no paid content. So while its popular, its in no way generating as much revenue as SWTOR.

With that said i think GW2 is a bad game and i dont foresee a rosy future to it without some series changes to the combat system and design. Might be popular to be the guy that does things differently and become a commercial darling, but the players that play the game are the ones that really know. And the fact is it isnt a very compelling game at all. I wish i could get my money back cause i got burned bad by it. Its 3/10 material to me. Tried different things, the questing system was different and the graphics good but thats where the good ends. The whole game is just plain bad.

but GW2 was supposed to be the greatest game ever. It was supposed to kill WoW and SWTOR. Everyone was going to play GW2 and nothing else.

Problem is the developers wanted to be hipsters.

If they had grabbed the GW1 combat system and slapped it in a persistant world as they promised initially, they would've gotten a winner.

Instead they thought they'd make us auto-attack alot and lose all elements of team-play by removing healers from the game. Bravo! They are hipsters beloved my the developing community but their game is in serious decline. If the game was sub based, it would've been the biggest fail of MMO's ever. Even as F2P since the start they are aproaching SWTOR levels of population.

And it was supposed to put an end to grind... Sure. The moment I reached level 50 and realised that I need to run dozens of times through the same, trough dungeon in order to get a single set piece (because they do not drop from the enemies!) I said "never again".

Though I miss Jeremy Soule's music.