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Concealment Op PVP guide


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AngelofCain
09.22.2012 , 11:03 AM | #1
Just some thoughts on Op PVP. Some people asked for me to write a guide or strongly hinted at it. If you see an issue to it post or bring it up to me in game. I don't do this for a living. So this is a crude attempt.

Concealment Operative pvp:

Gear:
16 War hero pieces not including your enforcer armorings.

3 wh Field tech pants for Power mod

3 Wh Weaponmaster gloves for crit enhancement

2 Force-mystic gloves For power enhancement

3 enforcer boot for crit mod.

This is just for basic gear optimization.

Armorings 3 PVP and 2 piece PVE, split however you like. you want that 15 percent crit off of it for almost 70 percent crit on Backstab.

Nitty gritty details:

35 percent crit self buffed

at least 1100 expertise

My current gear grind build: finished result 6 pieces away from my complete min/max: This is not my look, just my gear set up

http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/characte...9-51ba356e41cc

Then as much Power as you can cram onto your armor, with respect to the 35 percent self buffed crit mark.

My Pvp Build:

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#4010cZMIMkddkdGRZhr.2

With this build Debillitate's Cooldown is exactly as long as explosive probe. (use it to make someone's day bad)

Rotation: (from stealth)


Acid Blade, Hidden strike, Shiv, Debillitate, cover, probe, back stab, lacerate lacerate, shiv, whatever required to win after that.


You want at least 1 Tactical advantage to get the 2% dmg buff.


Now we as operatives know that stealth is our biggest Advantage in any war zone, but in my opinion it is also our greatest weakness. As a operative you should be as comfortable fighting out of stealth as opening from stealth. What you are insane Hallow!!! damn right I am. Just take a few days, do warzones only stealthing only when you need too. Learn to use your debillitate and probe together as a opener in mid combat with Backstab with Acid blade to set it off. Plus without stealth it forces you to use your Defensive cd's better otherwise you will die fast and horrible. Use Cloaking Screen only as a last resort. Challenge yourself to be better.Now that's just my basic Idea for learning to play the operative.


Rotation: (opening out of stealth)


Debillitate, Probe, Backstab, shiv, continue from lacerate.



Every class has a weakness.

Assassins: Can be a pain, but if you have learned to fight unstealthed it's fairly straightforward from there. ( Side note: (just learned this cause I am special) Overload Shot works through Force Shroud. When they go all Fabulous!!!!( shiny yellow or whatever) just overload shot and Boom!!! 2k crits continues.)

Marauders: Evasion is your best friend, wait for their stacks on you to be full, pop evasion and continue kicking ***. (sidenote: Toxin scan removes their dots. Mine is macroed to shift spacebar)

P/ts: Shield probe first and Toxin scan is your friend. they still hit really hard if you aren't careful.

Juggs: see above for p/ts.

Mercs Interrupt their grav rounding whatever and it's easy mode from there.

Snipers: this one can be a bit tricky, if they are entrenched, But otherwise evasion if your best friend.

Healers: mmmmm, my bread and butter. There are always healers claiming to be unkillable and that is fine. Just remember if you keep hurting them, interrupting their heals, preventing them from healing their team, that is a win in your column not theirs. For a operative, ego should not be in the way. You are mathematically not going to push the numbers of other classes, but you can be the most annoying god awful thing to run into ina warzone. Let the healers think that you can't kill them, cause let's face it with our energy regen sometimes you can't. But you can keep them occupied so their team mates get torn to shreds. THis is especially true in rateds.



Use the field to your advantage, if you can't do 2v1 wait for someone to get careless, or eager to join the fight. They usually end up getting antsy guarding a node. Strike then strike hard and strike fast.

Sever tendon: (sidenote) Talent sever tendon works through resolve, they can't move for two secs, and typically when people can't move on the field they think they are stunned. So continue kicking ***. I love using it to pin people in fire pits the debillitating them. if the fire is going to go off, wave good bye to them and continue on your way.

Double CC and choosing cc targets: So I don't usually double cc a single target but ccing someone for a 2v1 is a helpful idea. Now from experience and watching a lot of people ccing or trying to cc, don't seem to realize that ccing a tank, who has guard on a healer, will have their cc broken when said guard takes damage. I watch a lot of fights that start out in favor of the stealthy, but then have their cc target disrupted by their choice in cc targets. Yes it's a tank, yes it may take a few moments, but cc the healer kill the tank, and interrupt the healer when their resolve bar is full. Win the fight if possible, when the cc is finished on the healer, usually by this point the jugg tank in this instance will have shoved you away from node, flashbang him and get to work on the healer. Sin tanks are harder because you have to find them. Concept is the same but sometimes you have to just let the sin tank open on you, cause in the beginning its not going to hurt much, just blow your ccs and defensive cd's, just keep hitting the healer. Dps and healers can be easier or harder depending on the dps and how fast you can kill the dps or healer.
Hallow, ägronä, <Status unknown> -(Concealment Operative)
Elite Warlord (since1.2) // Warzone Annihilator

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AngelofCain
12.24.2012 , 09:16 AM | #2
Update: With new gear released I am working on getting as close to 1150 power no stim self buffed. I think the closest I can come too is 1132 or 1133. Stay Tuned!!!
Hallow, ägronä, <Status unknown> -(Concealment Operative)
Elite Warlord (since1.2) // Warzone Annihilator

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thefishdude
12.24.2012 , 05:41 PM | #3
Is this a nerf OP thread?? Oh, I just love those threads!!
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Oromis
12.24.2012 , 06:13 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by thefishdude View Post
Is this a nerf OP thread?? Oh, I just love those threads!!
Its a guide to Op in pvp... how is that related at all.
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AngelofCain
12.24.2012 , 06:25 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by thefishdude View Post
Is this a nerf OP thread?? Oh, I just love those threads!!
no? no more nerfs!!!
Hallow, ägronä, <Status unknown> -(Concealment Operative)
Elite Warlord (since1.2) // Warzone Annihilator

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vimm
12.25.2012 , 03:22 AM | #6
Interesting gear choice, Hallow.
geeR
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AngelofCain
12.25.2012 , 07:46 AM | #7
what can I say, It works for me. Mostly this was a guide on strats for 1v1 fighting for operatives.
Hallow, ägronä, <Status unknown> -(Concealment Operative)
Elite Warlord (since1.2) // Warzone Annihilator

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vimm
12.25.2012 , 06:28 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by AngelofCain View Post
what can I say, It works for me. Mostly this was a guide on strats for 1v1 fighting for operatives.
What works for you is your play style. You're a fine Operative (:
geeR
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thefishdude
12.25.2012 , 06:41 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Oromis View Post
Its a guide to Op in pvp... how is that related at all.

haha......I was joking, but it turned out I actually trolled you without even trying. I should say nerf myself along with Op's again.
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AngelofCain
12.25.2012 , 08:04 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by vimm View Post
What works for you is your play style. You're a fine Operative (:
it's what I do.
Hallow, ägronä, <Status unknown> -(Concealment Operative)
Elite Warlord (since1.2) // Warzone Annihilator