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Bioware, we find your lack of imformation disturbing..

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Bioware, we find your lack of imformation disturbing..

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Avengerfx
12.24.2012 , 09:01 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Cretinus View Post
I don't think that BW is acting much differently than any other company. But you're entitled to your own opinion, of course. And not only you, actually everybody is entitled to his own opinion. This is why it would be highly appreciated if you'd draft your posts accordingly, i.e. that you (and not 'we') find the lack of information disturbing.
Thank you for letting me know I am entitled to an opinion, truly sir. And the reason I put "we" is because I am not the only one who feels this way. Believe it or not I do spend time reading forums, time in game reading chat. Therefore when you talk about something that more than 1 person feels the same way for, I becomes we. Perhaps you should rethink the way you comment on someones post beforehand and think of a better way to show your disagreement with their post. But I guess you are entitled to your own opinion as well.

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Shwarzchild
12.24.2012 , 09:08 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Fornix View Post

Fact is, many players aren't looking for a response, they're looking for an answer to their liking. Something which is much less likely going to happen on these forums. Just wait for the next financial meeting, major gaming convention, etc.
I just cropped your quote to what I think was probably the most accurate point overall. They do communicate, I agree with you there. I think they've done a better job thanks to Allison. Those types of things are much appreciated on my end. I think you're spot on with the first sentence there: "..to their liking". I am absolutely guilty of this as well. I want to hear about class stories + companions. Those were the biggest drawing points for me, and as a company making one feel incredibly engaged by a class story, and closeness to the companions are two things Bioware is extremely strong in. I do know I'm being greedy with those desires, so I try to keep them as unspoken as I can. You're definitely very right (again..darn you for being so right ! ). that patience is needed from us all for events that would lend themselves to the passing of information to us from Bioware. A lot of times we think that because we have a 24/7 connection to Bioware via the forums we should be given more information at a quicker rate. It's hard to separate that constant connection with how information flows. I think you've convinced me to back down on my assertion that more communication is needed.

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12.24.2012 , 09:25 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by darklordpotter View Post
Wouldn't have bothered but as you keep using it. "long term" means what not before end of 2013? not before end of 2014? - you don't know and neither do I. Heck there is a serious discussion in another thread about whether it is still happening at all. Ilum I'll concede I missed (probably because I don't pvp) and "in the works" is even more useless than "long term". What I was asking for is a rough (very rough) +/- year date not "long term"
Thing is, giving years creates deadlines, and if deadlines aren't made, shareholders get upset and players get upset. See the SWTOR launch itself, which was delayed by half a year. See Makeb which was first announced as a 2012 thing. It is best not to make deadlines public, till you're fairly certain, that deadline can be made.

If I'd give my personal guess on the SSSP? I'd say 2014 at best. I don't think we'll be seeing it in 2013. After all, don't forget that making a solid space feature isn't just introducing a mini game, it's essentially making a full-fletched game within a game. And that's something, which is going to take time to develop.
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LeonBraun
12.24.2012 , 09:33 AM | #44
Hop over to WoW official site an look at what they dropped on their fans for Friday for post holidays... A single image of the next content patch soon to hit the PTR.

Oddly enough, now in their forums their community is whining that content is coming out too fast, lol. MoP does have a TON of content though.
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A_nonymous
12.24.2012 , 09:47 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Fornix View Post
The EA shareholder conferences also give a good deal of information and a general idea of the direction. However, keep in mind that SWTOR is just a small element of the bigger EA picture. Just like Amazon will not always be completely focussed on for example just their Amazon Web Services but also discuss their other products the EA financial meetings will not only be about SWTOR.

Moreover, just like Amazon doesn't disclose all of its plans on their public discussion boards, EA/BioWare isn't going to disclose all of their plans on the discussion boards.

Don't forget, you may be a subscriber, you may be a customer, but most of us are not a shareholder (unless you actually have EA stock obviously).
Once again, no one is asking them to disclose all their plans. People are asking that they simply respond to customer complaints. Look at the "expansion pack". There is quite an uproar at the moment from people who argue (and reasonably so) that it's not enough to justify charging extra. All people are asking is that BW respond to this concern in some way shape or form. Even a flat out F U would be better at this point than just silence. But this is how BW responds to every concern people have it seems.
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ranako
12.24.2012 , 10:02 AM | #46
all they had to do was just make this expansion "Rise of the Level Cap". It goes along with their ever expanding pay 2 win format...everyone has to buy this expansion if they want to stay competitive. How well do you think a level 50 with fair against a level 55?
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12.24.2012 , 10:04 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
Its not just a lack of response thats bad, half if not all of the posts talking about the previous talks over makeb from people like james ohlen are being systematicly removed, and posts that are not so shining about makeb and how its being handled are being edited and re-arainged to the degree of posts from one topic moved into another or simply removing some posts whilst editing the quotes out but leaving the replys so it looks like people arnt bothered.
How many people here have been hit by this here. I know I have and i've seen some individual forum posters being hit a lot more then me. I also noticed a few times post vanishing as I was reading pages and hitting refresh. I seen page counts drop me back 2 pages at a time when i wanted to go to page 6 and I ended on page 4.
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Master_Kyp_Sazen
12.24.2012 , 10:08 AM | #48
I'm Commander Shepard, and I agree with this message.....

Oh wait, I forgot, I'm not Shepard in this game.

I don't post very often, but I think the OP is totally on point. All EA/Bioware is doing (for me anyway) is turning me away to go play other games and spend my money elsewhere.

There are so many F2P options and MMO options in general to pick and choose from, Bioware isn't doing a whole lot to make their game stand out from the crowd. The only thing they really have going for them is the fact that its a licensed Star Wars game with a built in fan base.

However, the tighter they grip their information, the more subs will slip through their fingers.....

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A_nonymous
12.24.2012 , 10:10 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitblade View Post
How many people here have been hit by this here. I know I have and i've seen some individual forum posters being hit a lot more then me. I also noticed a few times post vanishing as I was reading pages and hitting refresh. I seen page counts drop me back 2 pages at a time when i wanted to go to page 6 and I ended on page 4.
I've had the exact same thing. I've hit refresh to find entire threads gone forever. Like millions of voices cried out and were suddenly silenced.
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darklordpotter
12.24.2012 , 10:32 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitblade View Post
How many people here have been hit by this here. I know I have and i've seen some individual forum posters being hit a lot more then me. I also noticed a few times post vanishing as I was reading pages and hitting refresh. I seen page counts drop me back 2 pages at a time when i wanted to go to page 6 and I ended on page 4.
And hey oh look the post you quoted? Yeah that's been deleted as well. Interestingly a post I made yesterday complaining about their rather 1984 forum moderation tactics survived where as a whole of my other posts didn't.

Consistency FTW I guess?

I have not however been warned, told how I (presumably) broke the terns of service or even informed that posts were being deleted.