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I would like a Vong Event


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Altyrell
12.23.2012 , 05:19 PM | #21
Except seeing the Vong like the way the OP is suggesting wouldn't makes sense considering they won't invade until after the Movies. Before this game there was A Single Scout Ship that was noted but wasn't completely identified as at that time it wasn't known that it was a Vong Scout Ship that Canderous encountered.

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spencer_
12.23.2012 , 05:35 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Altyrell View Post
Except seeing the Vong like the way the OP is suggesting wouldn't makes sense considering they won't invade until after the Movies. Before this game there was A Single Scout Ship that was noted but wasn't completely identified as at that time it wasn't known that it was a Vong Scout Ship that Canderous encountered.
I was wondering when someone would bring this up. Yes this is true. The Vong probably should not appear beyond maybe mentioning this scout ship, and maybe having it reappear. Now, investigating a Vong crash site I could see, especially in the same vein as the rakghoul event. Hand out amphistaffs as rewards (like the bowcasters) and thudbugs as special grenades (like those the cybertechs make). Maybe even a set of Vong social armor. As long as the character's in game never determine the origin of the ship, I'd say it would be fine. After all, 3000 years is a long to to lose records of one lone mysterious crashed ship, especially since organic ships are not unheard of (like the ones from zonama sekot).

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Alec_Fortescue
12.23.2012 , 05:36 PM | #23
Well, Canderous makes a reference to an object seemingly similar to what might be a Vong starship... Perhaps a single Flashpoint where we board a derelict starship (oh, spooky) that contains unknown technology and terryfying enemies. And light sources are limited.

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vian
12.23.2012 , 06:12 PM | #24
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What? No. lol.
You're right. The numbers I was talking about, here, are mainly pre GW2. So, OK, maybe (although the way GW2 is going, it's not a sure thing ) it's 3 these days, not 2.

Again. We should all fail so miserably.

Of course, if you've got better numbers, I'm eager to see them. But if those three words are all the argument you've got, run along.
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Altyrell
12.23.2012 , 06:55 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by spencer_ View Post
I was wondering when someone would bring this up. Yes this is true. The Vong probably should not appear beyond maybe mentioning this scout ship, and maybe having it reappear. Now, investigating a Vong crash site I could see, especially in the same vein as the rakghoul event. Hand out amphistaffs as rewards (like the bowcasters) and thudbugs as special grenades (like those the cybertechs make). Maybe even a set of Vong social armor. As long as the character's in game never determine the origin of the ship, I'd say it would be fine. After all, 3000 years is a long to to lose records of one lone mysterious crashed ship, especially since organic ships are not unheard of (like the ones from zonama sekot).
Quote: Originally Posted by Alec_Fortescue View Post
Well, Canderous makes a reference to an object seemingly similar to what might be a Vong starship... Perhaps a single Flashpoint where we board a derelict starship (oh, spooky) that contains unknown technology and terryfying enemies. And light sources are limited.
I think that as long as it isn't named or out right referred to as the Vong or anything with the Vong in the name, then it could work, as the Galaxy won't know the Vong as the Vong until the fully invade the Galaxy.

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Alec_Fortescue
12.23.2012 , 07:17 PM | #26
Instead of Vong, I'd so much prefer TOR to unveil some mysteries of the Celestials... Would be mind blowing if made anything like in Mass Effect.

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DarkhorseForLife
12.23.2012 , 07:30 PM | #27
There are different levels of canon:

G-canon is absolute canon; the movies (their most recent release), the scripts, the novelizations of the movies, the radio plays, and any statements by George Lucas himself. G-canon overrides the lower levels of canon when there is a contradiction. Within G-canon, many fans follow an unofficial progression of canonicity where the movies are the highest canon, followed by the scripts, the novelizations, and then the radio plays.

T-canon[4] refers to the canon level comprising only the two television shows: Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars live-action TV series.

C-canon is primarily composed of elements from the Expanded Universe including books, comics, and games bearing the label of Star Wars. Games and RPG sourcebooks are a special case; the stories and general background information are themselves fully C-canon, but the other elements such as character/item statistics and gameplay are, with few exceptions, N-canon.

S-canon is secondary canon; the story itself is considered non-continuity, but the non-contradicting elements are still a canon part of the Star Wars universe. This includes things like the online roleplaying game Star Wars: Galaxies and certain elements of a few N-canon stories.

N-canon is non-canon. "What-if" stories (such as stories published under the Star Wars: Infinities label), crossover appearances (such as the Star Wars character appearances in Soulcalibur IV), game statistics, and anything else directly contradicted by higher canon ends up here. N-canon is the only level that is not considered official canon by Lucasfilm. A significant amount of material that was previously C-canon was rendered N-canon by the release of Episodes I–III.

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Star Wars: The Old Republic in itself is C-canon and you can tell that the storytellers for this game put a large amount of time and effort into respecting the established C-canon with minimal ret-con.

That being said, Vhong could technically be used in the game, although it would be very difficult to put them into the story effectively due to the timing of the game in the overall story line.

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Everyone arguing about it being canon or not canon... you are both right... and you are both wrong . It all depends on your "point of view" (what level of canon you wish to respect).
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DarkhorseForLife
12.23.2012 , 07:33 PM | #28
Personally I wouldn't mind if they were left out, purely due to the fact that ToR already deviates from a lot of the core "fundamentals" of Star Wars stories as a whole. Additionally, there is a lot of focus put on civilizations like the Rakata and Gree, which is cool in it's own right, but difficult to relate to much of what the majority of people accept as a "Star Wars" story.

One thing that was very forward thinking of the game designers and writers was to incorporate the sith into a "Sith Empire". Although easily confused with the Empire that came much later during the movies, it allows for much of the "good versus evil" that most people are used to in a Star Wars story. Most people can easily get behind the fact that there are good guys that are aligned with the good jedi and bad guys that are aligned with the sith.

Just my 2c.
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TapVallian
12.23.2012 , 07:35 PM | #29
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Personally, I hate the Vong stuff and refused to read it further.

I somehow manage to despise the Vong more than I despise the Holiday Special.

Why? Because it is too Star Trek-ish.
I've always felt a strong dislike for Vong stuff also.

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Alec_Fortescue
12.23.2012 , 07:41 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by TapVallian View Post
I've always felt a strong dislike for Vong stuff also.
Same. I'd rather see something on Celestials