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I'm feeling Nickel and Dimed by Makeb

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I'm feeling Nickel and Dimed by Makeb

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Aelaias
12.22.2012 , 04:19 PM | #71
The subscribers are definitely getting had. If it cost $5 dollars then there would at least be parity with f2p but subscribers wind up paying $25. And if you choose not to buy it in very short order you are 5 levels behind everyone who did. So in effect they are obliging you to pay for it to compete. Even for EA, that's douchy. I mean $5 is a trivial sum but the douche wafting from this "expansion" is so powerful it robs me of any desire to partake. And there isn't that much desire to begin with.
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Arkerus
12.22.2012 , 04:23 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Aelaias View Post
The subscribers are definitely getting had. If it cost $5 dollars then there would at least be parity with f2p but subscribers wind up paying $25. And if you choose not to buy it in very short order you are 5 levels behind everyone who did. So in effect they are obliging you to pay for it to compete. Even for EA, that's douchy. I mean $5 is a trivial sum but the douche wafting from this "expansion" is so powerful it robs me of any desire to partake. And there isn't that much desire to begin with.

I know right? God forbid they take the original makeb content, add to it, add 5 levels and ask for $10. I mean, what's next? They might actually ask us for another 10 bucks 2 years from now.
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Arkerus
12.22.2012 , 04:29 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMike View Post
Now this is one very "adulty" and mature post



What did they add to:

Makeb
Level cap raise
OP
FP

which they called NON EXPANSION CONTENT UPDATE few months ago, eh?
We don't know yet but we've been told there is a lot more to the expansion than they revealed. Hey, if they come out and say its just makeb and nothing else, then even I might quit. But until then I assume they aren't just making crap up for the hell of it. I don't instantly assume they are lying to us. But then again, I'm not an angsty video gamer who has to make my self importance on the forums.
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Aelaias
12.22.2012 , 04:30 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
I know right? God forbid they take the original makeb content, add to it, add 5 levels and ask for $10. I mean, what's next? They might actually ask us for another 10 bucks 2 years from now.
Too subtle for you? Let me rephrase: "God forbid they ask more for it from subscribers than f2p players".
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Arkerus
12.22.2012 , 04:32 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Aelaias View Post
Too subtle for you? Let me rephrase: "God forbid they ask more for it from subscribers than f2p players".
Industry standard basically. Raise the level cap, add some content, charge some money. You should be able to decide if that level of service is ok for you. If not, no one is asking for you to stay. No one cares if you leave over 10 dollars.
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Aelaias
12.22.2012 , 04:33 PM | #76
Far be it from me to imply that anyone does. Do you think they will care if several thousands subscribers leave? Also, you still haven't indicated any sort of comprehension of the point I made there. And as far as "we don't know yet but they said that there is way more to the expansion than they have revealed", you go ahead and pre-order based on that.
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GrandMike
12.22.2012 , 04:40 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
We don't know yet but we've been told there is a lot more to the expansion than they revealed. Hey, if they come out and say its just makeb and nothing else, then even I might quit. But until then I assume they aren't just making crap up for the hell of it. I don't instantly assume they are lying to us. But then again, I'm not an angsty video gamer who has to make my self importance on the forums.
Yah, there might be OP and FP, and that it would be equal to what was supposed to come in Makeb content update.

They lied about so many things since launch (including this non expansion content update) that their word has 0 weight. You act as if you werent here lol.

Even fanbois said it: all deals are off and nothing they say has any weight

Quote: Originally Posted by Aelaias View Post
Far be it from me to imply that anyone does. Do you think they will care if several thousands subscribers leave? And you still haven't indicated any sort of comprehension of the point I made there. And as far as "we don't know yet but they said that there is way more to the expansion than they have revealed", you go ahead and pre-order based on that.
Well, they obviously dont care that few millions left, but hey, whos counting any more

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DorkTrooper
12.22.2012 , 04:41 PM | #78
Regardless, I realize that when this content is released, I will be making a final decision to accept the new "pay us 10 bucks when we tell you to" business model or leave the game I enjoy playing forever.


No, you'll be paying more than $10 for waiting to see exactly what the content entails, if you do indeed buy it then.

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DigitalDreamz
12.22.2012 , 04:48 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
Industry standard basically. Raise the level cap, add some content, charge some money. You should be able to decide if that level of service is ok for you. If not, no one is asking for you to stay. No one cares if you leave over 10 dollars.
Two things.

First:

Yes EA does care, stop brown nosing for them. He leaves, he takes his wallet with him. Realize that with over two million copies sold and WAY WAY less than a million subscribers today (actually sub numbers so low they were embarrassed to announce them) the subscribers have actually become a minority. There are more purchasers who've taken their money elsewhere than who've stayed. Why? Because there are road blocks to progress such as yourself. I'm sure Bioware just LOVES when you and all the other apologists say "leave" and they see less money in the cartel market, less sub numbers and less people buying the expansion.

If there was one person that I would NOT TAKE advice of 'industry standard in MMOs' it would be you. No offence, you are not a Bioware or EA employee so please don't try to act as mr. professional MMO guru.

Second:

Box in release = 60$
Now - Free

Sub fee - 15 bucks
Now - free to level to 50

Makeb - Free in June
Now - 10 to 20 bucks.

So for people who've been here since day one the money you paid did not return to developing this product. It went to appeal to people who didn't pay a f*** thing.

Think about this for a minute if you have been here since day one:

Box: $60 + Sub: $15 (x12) = 180.
Total = $240

So many people have given Bioware $240 dollars so they can turn around and put resources into a free market and getting players who've already said they hate the game. Good leadership imo.

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Arkerus
12.22.2012 , 04:48 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMike View Post
Yah, there might be OP and FP, and that it would be equal to what was supposed to come in Makeb content update.

They lied about so many things since launch (including this non expansion contnt update) that their word has 0 weight. You act as if you werent here lol.

Even fanbois said it: all deals are off and nothing they say has any weight



Well, they obviously dont care that few millions left, but hey, whose counting any more
I've never felt lied to. The whole game model changed. The business model changed. Some of these guys lost their whole staff. When the game changes companies have to adapt.

I see nothing wrong with the model they have proposed except the ship parts. I have posted about how I disagreed with that.
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