I'm feeling Nickel and Dimed by Makeb

It really does boil down to this.

I know alot call Nala a fanboy. ( you should actually look at alot of his/her posts. They are'nt always defending Eaware)

If people really wanted this changed. Don't pay for it. I have stated how I feel about it in many posts. And my issue really does'nt fall in with most posts.

It seems to me, that Eaware is not really going to change their mind, unless there is a Big uproar ( not the posts that are unconstructive either) or a loss of money. ( and even that would have to be big, if it is not they will just adapt.)

Do other games really give out expansions for free? That's not what I'd expect. My assumption was that I was playing a subscription to log onto the servers and play the existing game, not everything they ever add to it forever. That seems like a financially untenable idea, especially considering the amount of story and voice acting it will contain if it's anything like existing planets. If people want new story, which most do, they're going to have to pay for it's creation.

The point is to get them to repackage it to reasonable levels which sell more and make them the same or bigger profits.

Not to try and gouge customers more.

This seems more like a DLC vs an expansion. wont take long to do the 5 levels. I wont get it anytime soon,charge the f2p's for it,i already paid for the game and 2 subs. for a small update it should be free to subs. Maybe if enough subs dont buy it they will rethink the model, i doubt it though.

(this is not a flame at you.)

Yes.... other game do give them out free. Look at some other threads ( maybe this one too) to see which games.

We don't know how much more story it will contain ( something that I really don't think should be discussed yet due to not knowing).

The story that is coming with it is NOT class story. ( they have said as much, but it is story, so I put that in the same spot as we don't know enough about it).

Hope this helps a little.

Here's how i see it, for now of course not knowing the exact schedule of updates and such.

Using WoW as the example as its the only MMO i played for any length of time, every couple years a big expansion came out that you bought for whatever it was, 30-40 bucks. Assuming ToR does a yearly larger "patch/expansion" like Makeb, IMO its sort of just breaking the WoW expansion into several smaller, and less costly, chunks.

Imagine Wrath of the Lich King, if the first chunk was Northrend and its quests, that's Makeb.

That is if ToR continues with enough and decent content to keep me thinking of it this way. I do agree though that as a subscriber if these "expansions" come out every 6 months, rather than being part of my subscription they try to make me buy each one, then i will have to re-think sticking around.

And what about the subs who dont buy it,will we be denied the the 5 new levels?

So much needless hand wringing.

1. If you don't want to pay the damn $10, don't.
2. They are obviously pushing out content as fast as they can. You think maybe they are holding back for some ulterior motive? Why not enjoy what they can/have put out?
3. The game IS STILL free to play. You can play all the existing content now for free. No, I don't think subscribers that don't pay should get another 5 levels.
4. Obviously Ops, Flashpoints and other content will have to be tuned to account for those that are capped at 50.

If you don't like it, don't do it. Stop complaining about it on forums.

Good luck with that. Seriously. It would be great if they give Makeb away. I just don't see it happening.

I will bet I hate more things about the game than many of the 'haters'. I just don't complain about it. For example, I think Bioware is really being ridiculous selling the only decent looking gear on the Market while continuing to come out with more high level sets that looking like they came right out of Science Ninja Team Gatchaman.

BUT, I don't support it then. I like the F2P conversion because it lets me buy all the unlocks I'm too lazy to earn the credits to buy. But I buy very little else in the market. I bought a hoodless robe for my Guardian because I was tired of never finding one though.