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What GraphicsCard is compatible with my PC?

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xLogicalx
12.22.2012 , 04:51 AM | #21
Graphics Card: XFX - ATI Radeon HD 6770 1GB DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 Graphics Card $99.99

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/XFX+-+AT...&skuId=2293037


Power Supply Unit: Corsair - Builder Series 500-Watt ATX CPU Power Supply $63.99

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Corsair+...&skuId=2193223

Thats what I'm looking at after hearing from everybody on here .... this will work?
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Malastare
12.22.2012 , 08:01 AM | #22
I didn't suggest a video card because lots of other people had already suggested good cards, and I didn't see any bad choices named in the thread.

To be completely honest, you're not really going to notice a difference between nVidia or AMD. At the end of the day, both are making really good cards now. The nVidia 5xx and 6xx lines, and AMD 6xxx and 7xxx lines are pretty efficient, high quality cards and none of them are priced above their capabilities. Your only real gamble will be going with any of the various "overclocked" cards. Those aren't bad at all --I'm using one right now-- and they usually give you higher performance for a minor increase in price. However, you're gambling on the brand and hoping that the brand set it up properly. When done correctly (and brands like ASUS and MSI are reliable for this) you get a strong boost to the card without having to tweak things yourself. When done incorrectly (or if you just get unlucky), you may end up with a card that is unstable: giving you glitches and even crashes.

As for specific cards, as I said above, there aren't many bad choices. I really like the nVidia 560 Ti, but even with rebate, its up at $170. The AMD 6770 is much less expensive and comes from an old, but long line of reliable mid-range cards. The performance isn't going to impress anyone, but its probably going to get you where you want to go. Of course, in that case, you might as well spend the extra $10 and get the updated version: AMD 7770. It's slightly better, but uses a more efficient chip, so that means less heat, less electricity, less noise. Finally, the AMD 7850 seems to be a nice card, too, but again, its matching the same prices as the 560 Ti (not shocking, as they are very close in performance). I'm not really finding much in between $120 and $170, which is a shame. The AMD 6850 should be in there, as it might be a good compromise between price and performance, but it seems most places are draining that stock in preparation for the new AMD 8000 lines.

Short Version: Your budget for a video card isn't unreasonable. You'll probably like any card you find in that range, so long as you don't try to do anything crazy. For that range, the more you spend, the better performance you get. Below $100, you may not like what you get. Pick a brand that looks popular (ASUS, MSI, EVGA, Gigabyte, HIS, Sapphire, XFX, ...) and you should be set.

(NOTE: The reason I'm supplying Newegg links isn't because I work for them or some desire to advertise. I build my own PCs, and within the builder community, Newegg is something of a standard. The site usually gives reasonable prices (not the lowest, but not the highest) and loads of technical specs on the items. So, people use it as a reference. They also buy from it a lot, because they're pretty reliable shippers, too. However, that doesn't mean you shouldn't shop around for better prices.)

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Mercathode
12.22.2012 , 08:10 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by xLogicalx View Post
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Ok so now that you have established this I think personally the 6770 is a little low on the totem pole but it will work. At highest settings you will drop to frame rates below 30 in the fleet and some graphically intensive areas which will make the game stutter. This game has a bad stutter problem at low fps's. Some people have been able to tweak settings to alleviate this but without being a CompSci major it gets complicated and most tweaks do not work.

The 6770 is I would say the minimum for a playable experience, but you'll probably have to turn shadows off. I had a lower end Graphics card and it worked fine w/out the shadows but that wasn't acceptable to me.

How much do you want to spend? I basically built a computer for this game as I was strictly a console player but loved the original SWTOR games so it was this or sit by while others enjoyed. Glad I did. I had a low end card originally and the game stuttered after a few updates/patches. So I decided to get a high end card. The GTX 570 from EVGA with 1.28GB DDR5. It's easily overclockable so I can squeeze some extra life out of it in the near future and then add a second card for long term upgradeability.

The 570 is by no means the best but I didn't want to spend $500 on a graphics card and after exhaustive research, on newegg. forums, different manufacturers specs and websites I decided on the EVGA. haven't had one problem and it's been about 9 months and running. The minimum for the card is I believe 500watts of PSU.

Although like one of the poster said any $250 and up card or thereabouts will do the trick.

I spent 2 months researching. So much so i was driving myself crazy. Radeon or Geforce. I don't want to seem brand specific. Look it up on google and see how it compares. Nvidia's seemed to be slightly better performance wise than equivalent Radeons. The Radeons also seemed to run hotter across the board.

I would suggest you go with a higher end card and the PSU you picked is fine.

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Malkavier
12.22.2012 , 08:12 AM | #24
No, do NOT get the 7xxx cards. AMD is dumping them right now because there is a hardware error in them that causes microstuttering in 3-D applications. It's also looking like the new mobile 8xxx APU series has the exact same issue.

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Mercathode
12.22.2012 , 08:27 AM | #25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130838

From what I'm reading it has allot of CUDA cores. It's the 3.0 x 16 so you are future proof for a while, it's low and slim form factor which might be an issue with your stock Brand PC and it's cool and quiet. Check the room in your case. Some of these cards can get quite big.

Also this is kind of designed for people with limited space and cooling ie people who want to play the latest games but don't want to rebuild their computer. It's only 128bit though but with the extra cores you should be ok. Also you can get a second one in the future if you ever want to upgrade the rest of your system. It's $139 and comes with a free copy of ACIII.

If you want a 256bit you will need to spend at least $179. I went through the same thing and found the price point stopped at $250 ish. Then it jumped to $400-$500 for the better card. It was small increments up until the $250 mark yet performance wasn't hugely better for the $400-$500....see what I mean...drove myself nuts.

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Mercathode
12.22.2012 , 08:44 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Malkavier View Post
No, do NOT get the 7xxx cards. AMD is dumping them right now because there is a hardware error in them that causes microstuttering in 3-D applications. It's also looking like the new mobile 8xxx APU series has the exact same issue.

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Had a lower end AMD and it stuttered bad. Most gamers when you get to the upper end of the spectrum all you see is Intel and Nvidia. I had to make the switch for the sake of not wanting to turn off shadows to keep my fps up and not get such bad stuttering. Looked at charts comparing micro stuttering from card to card and the AMD's always had the up and down fps rates making the stuttering way worse where as the Nvidias had more of a flat line thus less stuttering.

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xLogicalx
12.22.2012 , 09:32 AM | #27
With the info u guys gave me this is what i got.....


EVGA GeForce GTX 650 01G-P4-2652-KR Video Card - 1GB GDDR5, PCI-Express 3.0(x16), 1x Dual-link DVI-I, 1x Dual-link DVI-D, 1x Mini-HDMI, DirectX 11, Superclocked, Dual-Slot

$119.99


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...01124&csid=_61
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xLogicalx
12.22.2012 , 09:36 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Mercathode View Post
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130838

From what I'm reading it has allot of CUDA cores. It's the 3.0 x 16 so you are future proof for a while, it's low and slim form factor which might be an issue with your stock Brand PC and it's cool and quiet. Check the room in your case. Some of these cards can get quite big.

Also this is kind of designed for people with limited space and cooling ie people who want to play the latest games but don't want to rebuild their computer. It's only 128bit though but with the extra cores you should be ok. Also you can get a second one in the future if you ever want to upgrade the rest of your system. It's $139 and comes with a free copy of ACIII.

If you want a 256bit you will need to spend at least $179. I went through the same thing and found the price point stopped at $250 ish. Then it jumped to $400-$500 for the better card. It was small increments up until the $250 mark yet performance wasn't hugely better for the $400-$500....see what I mean...drove myself nuts.
yea thats alot of money lol im broooooke! im going nuts now cause im trying to buy one today... and i wanna get it at a store cant order online follks be nosey as hell where im temporary living at now.
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Malkavier
12.22.2012 , 09:37 AM | #29
Asus Radeon HD 6670 PCIe 2.1 x16 Graphics Card, 1GB GDDR5 $102.40, has an additional $10 MIR.

Tigerdirect listing of all cards between $100 and $199, having GDDR5 VRAM

Look through these, there's plenty to choose from that fit within your $150 budget.
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BallaTehFeared
12.22.2012 , 09:45 AM | #30
AMD's drivers are painful to deal with, since you bought a cheap OEM PC my guess is you aren't a hardware guru so my advice is to pay the slight premium for Nvidia and buy the better brand.

PCIe 3.0 vs 2.0 doesn't matter. Not even on the fastest cards it's a small percent difference between 2.0 and 3.0 with a 680 or 7970 stuttering GHz card, but you have a locked 2.8GHz quad core in a dual threaded IPC race MMO... So stick with something below $150.


PCIe 3.0 only matters with multiple cards on high res/triple screen systems, don't worry about it.