I'm feeling Nickel and Dimed by Makeb

It's really not a fully fledged expansion, it's a downloadable content pack (they really could have chosen a better name for it, so as to be less... upsetting to those just searching for things to be mad about). Quite similar to what Everquest 2 did in its early years with the 3 adventure packs. Slightly more expensive, but probably a bit more fleshed out, realistically, with the level cap increase and whatnot.

I expect (though I have no evidence to back me up) that we'll get a full on expansion toward the end of 2013 or maybe sometime in the first half of 2014. Hopefully they'll be giving us some class story expansion at that point, especially considering that's one of the very few relatively unique things this game has/had going for it.

I have to say, I am finding the release of this new "expansion" a bit perplexing, Especially considering the current state of the game.

Do not get me wrong, I do not mind paying a sub fee and purchasing an expansion, especially if I enjoy the game. I just find it difficult to understand how they are able to charge subscribers a sub fee and on top of that making us pay for an expansion as well, when this game is pretty much a free to play game. True this game did not start off as a free to play game, but that is what it has ended up as. Most free to play games if giving an option to subscribe, subscribers get access to pretty much everything, and it is the free to play players who have to pay for expansions and such.(Dungeons and Dragons Online for example)

Free to play games in general release free expansions all the time, and continue to use their cash store to fund the release of said expansions, paying for server rental and all that. (Perfect World International just to name one). So why is it we are having to pay a subscription fee + pay for an expansion on top of that? It is not really the expansion I was expecting, (Was expecting or more to the point hoping) that we would get a 3D space sim expansion.

I do not know how anyone else feels about this, so please enlighten me. Do you agree? Disagree?

The point is, this game is a business. It's not some cool charity that EA, BW and LA threw out there for everyone out of the kindness of their hearts. It's a product; you don't want to use the product you don't have to pay for the product, you want to use the product you pay for the product. What you don't get to do is tell the producer of the product what they can and can't make you pay for, it's their product, nobody is forcing anybody to buy it.

I don't get all the crying, I really don't. Do you go to the 7-11 and cry to the cashier because, gasp, they make you pay for a hot dog? No. You want the hot dog you pay for the hot dog, you don't get to decide what 7-11 can and can't charge you for.

Grow up, get over it, be cheap or don't... just get over it.

You are all adults (most of you). You can decide if its right for you. If its not, simply walk away instead of jumping on your soapbox and explaining how this is a travesty and you won't stand for it.

Huh? You are already married to your LI. Others have prettty much offered their services to you for the rest of your life. There is nowhere to go from here. And please don't start on "kids", This is SWTOR, not Sims.

You dont have to read and post if you dont like it, you know that right?

I mean, that would be adult mature thing to do, right?

Not if they advertise i would get free got dogs once in awhile for subscribing to their hot dog stand, and then just, you know like, change their mind.

You dont usually go around and say people never to post again if you like what they have to say. Dunno, thats kinda...normal? rofl

MMO boards have an endless supply of complainers. It is likewise endlessly entertaining to actually give people the same advice the haters do (quit) and have then get mad about it. Really, if I gave the same advice, but in a tone that suggests I agree with the OP the haters would all be giving me virtual high-fives.

it was suppose to be free, they primised that BUT, sometimes you can't complete the promises. Just think they got Layoffs and F2P. you have to what Bioware suffered sometimes

I'll never understand people's thinking. They feel nickeled and dimed on $10 then ask for a $40 expansion. That's 4x bigger?? My brain hurts sometimes trying to wrap my head around it.