I'm feeling Nickel and Dimed by Makeb

SWTOR should have brough in something like Scars of Velious, that is exactly what the game needs, not an adventure pack with +5 levels.

2 apart from EQ1, EQ2, DAoC, LOTRO, Planetside, etc. etc.

really lets explore this!

Everquest 1 just released its 19th expansion pack that included 9 new zones each about the size of 3.4ths a "large planet." It also included 19 new Missions (Think flashpoints), and 9 raids, as well as completely overhauling their auction house, 1500 new spells, 3500 new items, as well as 5 more levels.

Everquest 2's recent expansion added 2 huge overland zones (The size of about 2 large planets), as well as 9 new Flashpoints and a ton of overland raids - this was also one of the smallest Xpacs released to date.

Aions Latest Expansion was completely free of charge and offered 2 new pve/pvp zones, 2 new Abyss Forts (Warzones), 8 Flashpoints and a revamp of old flashpoints, new skills, and 5 new levels.

Eve has released 11 expansions over its lifetime all free of charge. Some have been small some have been large, but again all completely free of charge.

Rift's latest xpac tripled the size of their world (Thats 34 more planets in SWTOR terms), gave 10 new levels, 4 new classes, full player housing, New Player city hub, 7 Flashpoints, 3 raids, and all new crafting.

WoW's latest xpac included 7 new zones (most are about 3/4ths the size of a large planet), 9 new Flashpoints, 3 new raids, scenarios and challenge modes of old instances, New race, New Class, revamped skill trees, entire meta game (pokemon game), New Arena, 2 new Battlegrounds, 10 more levels.

The only MMO I know of that has been releasing lackluster Xpacs is LOTRO and its why I no longer play that game anymore.

So it seems that perhaps the industry "standard" is a little higher than you thought

The fact we have to pay cash is also a big F.U. to subscribers. Good job making sure we can't save up our complimentary coins for the "expansion".

+1 This is also my biggest gripe with this whole ordeal. All Cash shop MMOs out there allow you to purchase xpacs with their currency....Bioware not allowing that is really the beyond comprehension.

Heck SOE did a TRIPLE station cash day yesterday ...IE you got Triple the points when you buy points...so you can buy their latest xpacx for 1/3rd the actual price using Station Cash...and they are perfectly ok with this....

But your examples are dieing, or over priced games in the first place, 40 bucks for a expansion, or free for a game that can barly push 100k subs, als in the case of eve which is a fantastic game, like i pointed out is a life sink, but you coukld play the game with out ever paying its just soooo much time spent.

In the case of what we have for swtor, As of Right now, Its a DLC at best i agree, but 10 bucks for a level cap and a planet yeah they were debating for it to be free or not, but with changes i see why they did it, But we dont know what they will add to it we have anywhere from 3-7 months for this to come out.

it's not a question of how much, but a question of making subscribers pay twice for it.
Bioscrooge robbed the subscribers of a piece of content promised for 2012 that was pushed back because they made the devs work on F2P features and cartel market instead of Makeb, and now they want us to pay for Makeb passing it as an expansion while James Ohlen said it wasn't.

Anyway, just wait for Makeb to hit the PTS and everyone will be able to judge for him/herself if the content really is worth the title "expansion". I bet it won't.

Not everyone, only those who have lvl 50 character since theres still no character copy. Yes, they promised one, and yes their word has 0 weight.

If you're feeling nickel and dimed, exercise the power you have as a customer. Don't buy the expansion. Unsubscribe and uninstall. Show Bioware you mean business. If you buy this expansion, if you give them encouragement (money), this direction will continue.

Indeed.

However equally cutting your nose of to spit your face hasn't always been the best option, so you could just F2P and not pay.