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Bioware/EA Question: Will there be further class story content in the forseeable futu

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Bioware/EA Question: Will there be further class story content in the forseeable futu

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Goretzu
12.20.2012 , 08:59 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by RichT View Post
I'll take your word for that, I havent played Lotro...but a few friends really like it so it has to be doing something right.
LOTRO central story takes in pretty much ever zone and has a central and progressive quest, it is I suppose somewhere between "Planet Story" and "Class Story" in SWTOR.

If they move to just Planet Story (which they have done for Makeb and may well do in the future) I guess it may well end up more like that.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Perihelion
12.20.2012 , 09:05 AM | #22
Well, fwiw, I'm here for the class stories too, no more class stories, no more sub. Though since I haven't completed them all they will get a subscription from me until I've completed them all. I've done some ops and HM's, I pvp every day, and space missions, well lol. The class stories are indeed the only AAA part of this mmo. I'll probably get Makeb if I have't completed my class stories by then, for the Makeb planetary stories (if anyone thinks they are more than planetary stories, they are deluding themselves). I don't have confidence that they will be decent stories unlike some of the existing planetary chains, most of the content they have provided since launch has been subpar, from both a subscription and ftp point of view.

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ReverendAnderson
12.20.2012 , 09:06 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Korusus View Post
If your experience is limited to WoW, then it's no wonder you're happy with SW:TOR as it is.
When it comes to sales and subs, WoW's always the measuring stick. As soon as people start talking about gameplay and features, WoW becomes the store brand and SWTOR gets compared to every other MMO that hasn't been able to compete with WoW any better than it has.
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kamed
12.20.2012 , 09:06 AM | #24
While I do support the expansion of each class storyline, I don't think it would be the greatest management decision they could make since it would only reach to a much smaller audience than a general planetary storyline content. The idea I am speaking about is, how can management deliver content for everyone with as moderate as possible of a budget.

Therefore I don't think a full fledged chapter 4 will ever come our way.

Currently I am opposed to expanding class storyline now, because frankly expanding individual story lines is very costly and they need to direct funds to stop the hemorrhaging of subscriber loss without incurring too much debt.

Besides that I think the whole individual class quest was supposed to be a jump off for bigger and grander adventures with other heroes/villians as players in the MMO. So it further reinforces the direction that appealing to a much larger audience is better than say a few can experience unless you played every class.

So the conclusion of class storyline is: Too much of a cost -> Too little of impact for whole audience. Whereas general expansions and adventures brings: Content for all -> At reduced cost.

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pantognost
12.20.2012 , 09:15 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
They've already answered this on at least two seperate occasions.

The answer is: NO.


(they've said they have no plans for Class Story in the 8 seperate story Ch1 to Ch3, L1 to L50 sense for the foreseeable future - they haven't outright ruled it out permenantly though.)
You sound very definitive. I am not questioning the validity of your post but I would like, if you are able, to provide the yellow post link that says that for documentation purposes.
thanks

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MarkoJinn
12.20.2012 , 09:24 AM | #26
Well I think this just confirms what we all feared of... The business model they started with 8 different class stories is not sustainable unless they are given a lot of time and the game is extremely successful. I love the story part of this game and is the only thing that really stands out but it would seem that I'm a minority... Otherwise there would still be 2 million subs and we would be waiting on chapter 4 now...
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Goretzu
12.20.2012 , 09:27 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by pantognost View Post
You sound very definitive. I am not questioning the validity of your post but I would like, if you are able, to provide the yellow post link that says that for documentation purposes.
thanks
Not sure, if it has been yellow posted here, but it is in two seperate interviews/Q&A with Devs.


Of course things change (look at Makeb being free), but they've not said anything else about it other than it won't be in Makeb and that there are no plans for it in the foreseeable future.

I'm unsure if that is a good thing or a bad thing to be honest. on the good side it should allow them to make more content, but on they bad side class story, as expensive and time consuming as it is, is a core part of SWTOR and one of the few advantages it has/had over competitor MMORPGs.
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kamed
12.20.2012 , 09:34 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Not sure, if it has been yellow posted here, but it is in two seperate interviews/Q&A with Devs.


Of course things change (look at Makeb being free), but they've not said anything else about it other than it won't be in Makeb and that there are no plans for it in the foreseeable future.

I'm unsure if that is a good thing or a bad thing to be honest. on the good side it should allow them to make more content, but on they bad side class story, as expensive and time consuming as it is, is a core part of SWTOR and one of the few advantages it has/had over competitor MMORPGs.
True, Swtor storytelling is a major selling point of this game and the developers sure know that. But for me, as long as the quality of their future storyline content (regardless if it is for individual or all classes) is up to par with the HK-51 update, I am okay with it.

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pantognost
12.20.2012 , 09:36 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by RichT View Post
I think you are mistaken.

The percentage of people who actually take the time to post here are a minimal slice of players anyway....even less are the ones who are ************ about "unsubbing" over this.

Even if all of the people who are saying they will actually do, (which I dont buy anyway, and the people telling us how good other MMOS are..but still here on the forum and not there playing bears this out), it would be a miniscule bump in the road at best.

The numbers I see in game, reflected in there being multiple instances running even on questing worlds and areas tells me the playerbase has increased. On top of that, in game people seem positive.

Dont over inflate the importance of the .001% that sit here and cry. From what I see in game, people arent sharing the doom and gloom.
It is true that the people posting here is a minor fraction of those playing the game. But that does not invalidate their points.

This game was advertised as the one that wouid bring story to mmos. It was its number 1 feature. It got watered down when EA took over and the irrelevant kill quests from the nth wookie got in the way of experiencing tightly the class story content. Make no mistake, if there was a way to skip the planet content without getting seriously underleveled for the story content (yes it is deliberate-the only story content for me is the class story content) then I believe that the game would have a far less steeper drop in subs. Provided ofcourse that energy was funneled to constant updates to this type of content. Like you I have very little free time and mmos are a mean of escapism so I hope you can understand how important (NOT) is the new ancient ubermaster piece of gear, against, say, a new threat for my consular to resolve.

I don't think I am alone.

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darthjanus
12.20.2012 , 09:36 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Not sure, if it has been yellow posted here, but it is in two seperate interviews/Q&A with Devs.


Of course things change (look at Makeb being free), but they've not said anything else about it other than it won't be in Makeb and that there are no plans for it in the foreseeable future.

I'm unsure if that is a good thing or a bad thing to be honest. on the good side it should allow them to make more content, but on they bad side class story, as expensive and time consuming as it is, is a core part of SWTOR and one of the few advantages it has/had over competitor MMORPGs.
Do you have a source for such interviews? Because I follow news concerning the game very closely, and have not seen such claims outside of those directed at the Makeb expansion. I further fear that the same reason such statements have not been made and a developer reply to this post will be unlikely is due to the public relations downfall that would result. Even if BioWare has no specific plans to continue class specific stories at this time, they would be loathe to admit it given that storytelling is the only unique feature and selling point for this game.

I really hope the developers will give us some insight into their plans for class stories, because if they are dead then I fear the game will not be far behind them.
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