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Rise of the Hutt Cartel questions

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Rise of the Hutt Cartel questions

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OdenLocke
12.19.2012 , 09:49 PM | #1
I find it odd that nothing has been announced myself. The fact that everyone is keeping their mouths shut on the date just means they don't want to deal with the community due to the fail that was the first and second Live Stream. Considering everything in the new Add-on Hutt Cartel stuff was announced months ago. Oh and it was supposed to be free to subs, and it was supposed to be out before the end of the year. And what ever happened to the Cathar? The Devs may be trying but they don't seem to be trying hard enough to communicate with us as the community or as the players.
I am getting kinda annoyed at the fact that this continues to happen. Before this game I could swear by the Bioware name. I have played everything they have made. I loved every game. This one is good, but no where near what Bioware can do. Part of me wants to blame EA because they don't want people like me going to the Cantina Tour, because I know the Star Wars lore and history almost better than Lucas himself. They don't want the hard questions asked. They don't want to have the facts slapped back in their face. I know I have posted supporting this game. That wont change, but I will not let something I love turn into EA's new money machine. EA has no idea how to run an MMO. Even though we all know EA bought Bioware because of the success of the KOTOR games and the reinvention of the Star Wars universe.
I am tired of not being heard as a player and a supporter of this game. The live streams were bogus and pointless. We learned nothing about the game or what is to come. Even those that got to ask questions were in both the first and the second. Which I find a little off. If I where to ask a question like, "When is The Hutt Cartel coming out?", all I would get for an answer is that it will be out soon. Or in the spring. I want a date! Not some bogus time frame that can be changed at a whim of the devs.
I understand programing can be complicated, I am a programer myself. So with as many people that work for the company... (EA and Bioware) which is a lot, why is it that somethings aren't getting fixed? Things that I know were reported in BETA?
As a sub I want more for my money. I shouldn't have to pay 30 bucks for a sub card and then add money to my account to help me get stuff I need for my characters to keep up with the F2P players that have bought a bunch of amazing gear on their characters.
Back to the point. I want a date within the next week and if I don't get one I will be mailing EA and Bioware. The fact that we are not being listened to as players there is an issue. Without us there is no game. We have stuck with this game since the beginning. Some of us bought the Collectors edition, others bought the game then the digital version just to get the extra stuff. We have supported and kept this game running. Yet we aren't getting answers nor are we getting feedback. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!
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s_w_sanders
12.19.2012 , 09:51 PM | #2
It's been that way since the begginning and it will continue being that way.

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DarkoDon
12.19.2012 , 09:57 PM | #3
Or sell the game and rights to someone else. If EA is gonna make Bioware create a greedy cash shop, then let another company have this and go back to making single player games.
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Jawstheshark
12.19.2012 , 11:04 PM | #4
Aye if they listen and act, the money will follow because the people will come.

> The game needed 6mo more in the oven. Whomever made the call to force launch in Dec 2011 cost the company at least 9 figures of missed profits.

> Story breaking class quest bugs needed, and still need, fixed ASAP. Even if you need to edit character data files one at a time to patch it up. I know many people for whom this is a huge contention point with the GMs/Devs, numerous tickets go ignored with no details on the 'known issues list' and no fixes. Story was one thing SWTOR did very well at launch, if you do not fix it for those it is broken for, you loose them.

> Fundamental network data management needs addressed as a top priority. As many customers have tested and provided data for BW, there are some bad design choices causing some of the severe performance issues.

> Basic features that are stock on every MMO out there need to be a priority. My fav to complain about is 'Ready Check'

> Do not deploy items that at a fundamental level require your Subs to pump more $$ in to participate with an in game holiday type content. Like a King levying more taxes to hold a banquet because it is a full moon outside, leads to revolt.

I could go on, but those are top concerns I see.

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Incendi
12.19.2012 , 11:13 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Jawstheshark View Post
Aye if they listen and act, the money will follow because the people will come.

> The game needed 6mo more in the oven. Whomever made the call to force launch in Dec 2011 cost the company at least 9 figures of missed profits.

> Story breaking class quest bugs needed, and still need, fixed ASAP. Even if you need to edit character data files one at a time to patch it up. I know many people for whom this is a huge contention point with the GMs/Devs, numerous tickets go ignored with no details on the 'known issues list' and no fixes. Story was one thing SWTOR did very well at launch, if you do not fix it for those it is broken for, you loose them.

> Fundamental network data management needs addressed as a top priority. As many customers have tested and provided data for BW, there are some bad design choices causing some of the severe performance issues.

> Basic features that are stock on every MMO out there need to be a priority. My fav to complain about is 'Ready Check'

> Do not deploy items that at a fundamental level require your Subs to pump more $$ in to participate with an in game holiday type content. Like a King levying more taxes to hold a banquet because it is a full moon outside, leads to revolt.

I could go on, but those are top concerns I see.
Oh trust me, my guild and I have a multiple page "list" of suggestions and fixes that we've been compiling as we play.
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GalacticKegger
12.19.2012 , 11:14 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by OdenLocke View Post
I find it odd that nothing has been announced myself. The fact that everyone is keeping their mouths shut on the date just means they don't want to deal with the community due to the fail that was the first and second Live Stream. Considering everything in the new Add-on Hutt Cartel stuff was announced months ago. Oh and it was supposed to be free to subs, and it was supposed to be out before the end of the year. And what ever happened to the Cathar? The Devs may be trying but they don't seem to be trying hard enough to communicate with us as the community or as the players.
I am getting kinda annoyed at the fact that this continues to happen. Before this game I could swear by the Bioware name. I have played everything they have made. I loved every game. This one is good, but no where near what Bioware can do. Part of me wants to blame EA because they don't want people like me going to the Cantina Tour, because I know the Star Wars lore and history almost better than Lucas himself. They don't want the hard questions asked. They don't want to have the facts slapped back in their face. I know I have posted supporting this game. That wont change, but I will not let something I love turn into EA's new money machine. EA has no idea how to run an MMO. Even though we all know EA bought Bioware because of the success of the KOTOR games and the reinvention of the Star Wars universe.
I am tired of not being heard as a player and a supporter of this game. The live streams were bogus and pointless. We learned nothing about the game or what is to come. Even those that got to ask questions were in both the first and the second. Which I find a little off. If I where to ask a question like, "When is The Hutt Cartel coming out?", all I would get for an answer is that it will be out soon. Or in the spring. I want a date! Not some bogus time frame that can be changed at a whim of the devs.
I understand programing can be complicated, I am a programer myself. So with as many people that work for the company... (EA and Bioware) which is a lot, why is it that somethings aren't getting fixed? Things that I know were reported in BETA?
As a sub I want more for my money. I shouldn't have to pay 30 bucks for a sub card and then add money to my account to help me get stuff I need for my characters to keep up with the F2P players that have bought a bunch of amazing gear on their characters.
Back to the point. I want a date within the next week and if I don't get one I will be mailing EA and Bioware. The fact that we are not being listened to as players there is an issue. Without us there is no game. We have stuck with this game since the beginning. Some of us bought the Collectors edition, others bought the game then the digital version just to get the extra stuff. We have supported and kept this game running. Yet we aren't getting answers nor are we getting feedback. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!
Dude (or dudette ... who knows) the release is over three months out. If they announce stuff now and then change things (welcome to the world of MMOs) they'll be called disorganized or flat out liars. If they don't announce anything up front they're called uncaring or idiots. Either way they will be called disorganized, liars, uncaring or idiots. Ya know, supermarket tabloid stuff.

Sometimes the best thing to do is do nothing but provide a heads up ... especially with an army of malcontents itching for a reason to vent & waiting to pounce on anything they can get their hands on. Personally I enjoy watching those types seethe in their own impatience. But that's just my PvP side.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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JAMES_PRYDE
12.19.2012 , 11:39 PM | #7
How is the expansion going to work ? Just purchase / preorder it, then when it is released the client will automatically update and install it ?
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SupremeLegate
12.20.2012 , 12:01 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by JAMES_PRYDE View Post
How is the expansion going to work ? Just purchase / preorder it, then when it is released the client will automatically update and install it ?
I would assume that it would be like Section X. The client updates per normal but if you don't have it purchases you can't go there.

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hchsiao
12.20.2012 , 12:55 AM | #9
Your client data will be updated regardless, however your max level cap will be restrict at lv 50 instead 55. You most likely won't see the new planet on your ship star map. (Or even if you can you can't go there.)

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CrimsonOrigin
12.20.2012 , 01:19 AM | #10
What the others said. You will have it downloaded, but you won't play on it.