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So much for not charging subs for Makeb

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So much for not charging subs for Makeb

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Quraswren
12.19.2012 , 09:41 AM | #991
Quote: Originally Posted by smexymage View Post
Makeb was supposed to be Free but its not even about the money. If it's worth it then i'll buy it but lets not call it an expansion because at best its a content patch in content(if all we are getting is what is advertised so far), renaming it to "expansion" doesn't change that.
6 months ago maybe they thought it would be free. 2 months later while still in it's development, BW stated they were not sure and recently you found out it was not free but it's not about the money...right?

It's about worth, which you know very little about to base any real decision on just yet. For all you know, it warrants being called an expansion and not a content patch. You know your getting more than what was advertised so far cause it clearly says, "More info to be released in the months to come."

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I wonder how long Makeb has been ready for, I wouldnt be surprised if it was ready, or almost ready before F2P hit and they just decided to sit on it to see how things went.
Given BW - I highly doubt makeb is any where near ready given some of the things we're currently dealing with in the live game.

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Taorus
12.19.2012 , 09:43 AM | #992
Quote: Originally Posted by Quraswren View Post
6 months ago they thought it would be free. 2 months later in it's development, BW stated they were not sure and recently you found out it was not free but it's not about the money...right?

It's about worth, which you know very little about to base any real decision on just yet. For all you know, it warrants being called an expansion and not a content patch. You know your getting more than what was advertised so far cause it clearly says, "More info to be released in the months to come."



Given BW - I highly doubt makeb is any where near ready given some of the things we're currently dealing with in the live game.
You may be shocked to find out what EA/BioWare considers ready.

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Goretzu
12.19.2012 , 09:43 AM | #993
Quote: Originally Posted by Quraswren View Post
6 months ago they thought it would be free.
It's nice to see you've come around to my way of thinking.

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Given BW - I highly doubt makeb is any where near ready given some of the things we're currently dealing with in the live game.
It's looking like March 2013 at the earliest.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Quraswren
12.19.2012 , 09:44 AM | #994
Quote: Originally Posted by Taorus View Post
You may be shocked to find out what EA/BioWare considers ready.
No doubt but that does go for the both of us given how little we know.

Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
It's nice to see you've come around to my way of thinking.
Not really, I just like pandering to the moronic ideal that thought a 6 month old statement really held any weight when they had to join 2 different peoples conversation to make a rather weak point then still held onto it today after clearly seeing and knowing that would not be the case in any way.

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It's looking like March 2013 at the earliest.
As long as more information comes out to warrant it's purchase I'll be there. 5 days early not enough for me to drop a dime knowing how game companies like to change things.

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translucentwolf
12.19.2012 , 09:46 AM | #995
Already bought mine. If you want more content, you have to pay the developers to generate it.

Muzzle not the coder who builds thy game.
That which does not kill you merely postpones the inevitable.

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Shingara
12.19.2012 , 09:48 AM | #996
Quote: Originally Posted by translucentwolf View Post
Already bought mine. If you want more content, you have to pay the developers to generate it.

Muzzle not the coder who builds thy game.
isnt that what subs are for cos im sure we carried on paying subs even in the content draught, how long was that anyhows, anyone remember and i dont wanna point at how long illum has been broken either.
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Taorus
12.19.2012 , 09:49 AM | #998
Quote: Originally Posted by translucentwolf View Post
Already bought mine. If you want more content, you have to pay the developers to generate it.

Muzzle not the coder who builds thy game.
When you go to a restaurant, Do you like to pay the check before you see the menu?

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Sparkymark
12.19.2012 , 09:50 AM | #999
This is not about the money for me, this is this 'Line in the sand' moment regarding what kind of game SWTOR is becoming

Lets face it this 'Expansion' is nothing more that a content update that was to be given as part of the subscription, it's been held back whilst the F2P transition kicked in and the Slippery slope down towards P2W kicks in as we've seen recently with the last batch of items to go on the store.

Anyway, this is not about $9.99 to me at all, this is about EA/BW using this game as some kind of bizarre and freaky experiment in how far they can push the boundaries with regards to what customers will tolerate. One thing is certain imho, if people accept paying $9.99 for a patch on top of paying for subs and P2W items in stores then you can bet this is the future for the game, and if they think they can get away with it they will just keep pushing and pushing, patches will start getting more expensive and delivering less, items on the store more powerful and the game tweaked so that in gameplay terms there is more reliance on store bought items.

So no, this is not about a mere $9.99, this is about a game being fundamentally changed and a company that is pushing things too far imho and who do not have any respect for their customers, the game or the franchise because if they did have any respect they would not be treating this like some horrible experiment in mmo subscription customer retention limits in the face of increasing micro transaction costs and impact.

Well they found my limit, account cancelled.

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Devlonir
12.19.2012 , 09:53 AM | #1000
Quote: Originally Posted by QuiQuaeQuod View Post
There are two issues:

1. Some reckon it's not really an expansion, and that the promised content is more patch-sized.

2. More importantly, it's an expansion that has been made by pulling together and scrapping patch content, so that you basically just have to pay to get your game improvements and patch content that would otherwise been released in maybe 2-3 patch chunks. It also means that the upcoming patches themselves will be minimal.

And you're going to pay for it. Have fun.
So.. basicly..

The 2 major issues for you are based on assumptions.

Good to know. Moving on.
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