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The Republic: SWTOR is "Out of Control"

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The Republic: SWTOR is "Out of Control"

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Goretzu
12.19.2012 , 09:41 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by sstanks View Post
if no one buys it then they can't get ripped off. How are you getting ripped off by not buying it?
Again something being A rip off doesn't mean I therefore have to have been ripped off, they are totally seperate things.

I don't know how to say this any more clearly.

Do you think $18.00 is a reasonable price for that mount then?
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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sstanks
12.19.2012 , 09:45 AM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Again something being A rip off doesn't mean I therefore have to have been ripped off, they are totally seperate things.

I don't know how to say this any more clearly.

Do you think $18.00 is a reasonable price for that mount then?
for a digital item that has no affect on the game at all and is completely optional? sure why not.

Is 2 million a reasonable price for the Bugatti Veyron?
Is VW going down the toliet because they make it? Are they ripping off their customers of other cars because they make it and sell it at 2 million each?

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Shingara
12.19.2012 , 09:47 AM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by sstanks View Post
for a digital item that has no affect on the game at all and is completely optional? sure why not.

Is 2 million a reasonable price for the Bugatti Veyron?
Is VW going down the toliet because they make it? Are they ripping off their customers of other cars because they make it and sell it at 2 million each?
which version /drool
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Goretzu
12.19.2012 , 09:48 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by sstanks View Post
for a digital item that has no affect on the game at all and is completely optional? sure why not.
Fair enough you think $18.00 for such a mount is fine, I accept that........... however a lot of people do not, you have to accept that too.

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Is 2 million a reasonable price for the Bugatti Veyron?
As they sold them at a loss (i.e. less than they cost to make) I suspect so - however I'm pretty sure a Santa Mount doesn't cost Bioware EA $18.00 per character to make......... I'm not even convinced they spent $18.00 on recolouring the mount skin in total.

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Is VW going down the toliet because they make it? Are they ripping off their customers of other cars because they make it and sell it at 2 million each?
Again I don't see how selling something for less than you make it can be a rip off, I guess that is just me though.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Vitellius
12.19.2012 , 09:51 AM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Again something being A rip off doesn't mean I therefore have to have been ripped off, they are totally seperate things.

I don't know how to say this any more clearly.

Do you think $18.00 is a reasonable price for that mount then?
It's all relative. What you think is a ripoff, someone might think is a good deal...or a fair deal. I spend money on digital crap from TF2. Do I feel like I got ripped off? No. But, if I tried to explain it to my father, he would say i'm an idiot for paying real money for imaginary stuff. Who is right? What I find value in, he doesn't. What entertains me, doesn't entertain him.
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Goretzu
12.19.2012 , 09:53 AM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by Vitellius View Post
It's all relative. What you think is a ripoff, someone might think is a good deal...or a fair deal. I spend money on digital crap from TF2. Do I feel like I got ripped off? No. But, if I tried to explain it to my father, he would say i'm an idiot for paying real money for imaginary stuff. Who is right? What I find value in, he doesn't. What entertains me, doesn't entertain him.
Indeed, as I said above.

However $18.00 for a badly reskinned mount - how would you justify that cost?


(it's not just the mount by the way, much like the people in the video I think the who Cashshop is seriously overpriced, probably by at least 50% on all prices $3.00 for some fireworks? ).
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Mazikeen
12.19.2012 , 09:56 AM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by DAMossimo View Post
I could less about christmas - it doesn't invalidate the other monkey business though.

The T7 ship gear fiasco has cost them 2 subs from my house. That was before Makeb entered the equation.
You mean the 'fiasco' where they made upgrades to HEROIC solo content available via Fleet Commendations, the GTN and the Cartel Market? That one, with three different methods of obtaining the upgrades?

Some of you people seriously need to stop and think before you act. You really do. You're complaining about a business attempting to make money in a way that many others are also doing. Nothing in the Market is P2W, nothing is REQUIRED to play the game (for those of us who sub) and the whole Christmas thing... I'm not anti-Christmas but people need to stop whining when a now-meaningless holiday is no longer celebrated publicly by a company that knows nothing about you.

Christmas is, theoretically, about the celebration of the birth of the 'savior of mankind'. It has turned into a greed-filled, selfish time of the year when companies goad you into spending money that could be used for better purposes and has gotten so bad some people take second and third mortgages on their homes to pay for gifts that mean nothing.

I'm glad they aren't shoving it in our faces. I like the Cartel Market. I think Makeb should cost $10. I'm glad SWTOR has an endgame. I'm glad gear is easier to obtain. I like the character stories, SGRs or not. I do not think 'everything is fine' and I DO think EA/Bioware has made some mistakes. I do not think any of them are game-breaking. I do think some bugs need to be fixed, some balancing needs to be done and some other things need work. I do not think the game is nearly as bad as most of the forum whiners claim, and certainly not worth canceling my sub over.
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Chaoslordfox
12.19.2012 , 09:57 AM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Jack_Deth View Post
Exactly, adding Christian holidays to fantasy worlds is immersion breaking in my opinion. Life Day is all that was needed since it is in the Star Wars lore.
Id like to point out t hat Christians hijacked the Christmas season from Pagan religions...At least the time f year that they celebrate it. And you don't have to be christian to appreciate the significance of this time of year either. If you think that all this time of year is about then you need to be smacked.... Now that is out of the way Like others have all ready said there is nothing that is Specific to Christmas..... Except maybe that awful looking speeder(no offense to any one that might like it though to me it just looks tacky >.<)
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Mazikeen
12.19.2012 , 10:01 AM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by AlyxDinas View Post
I laugh at the idea that the space gear in the Cartel Market is shattering to the balance of the game. It's not hard to get the gear through other means and the space missions barely affect the metagame.
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Not sure if trolling or serious. o.O
Probably serious, and I agree with Alyx. My guildmates tell me they can get 200k farming TFB story and I personally can net 60-70k an hour watching TV farming on my tank. Take that money, buy the parts off the GTN. The only reason I haven't is because I never do space missions anymore...
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sstanks
12.19.2012 , 10:02 AM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Fair enough you think $18.00 for such a mount is fine, I accept that........... however a lot of people do not, you have to accept that too.


As they sold them at a loss (i.e. less than they cost to make) I suspect so - however I'm pretty sure a Santa Mount doesn't cost Bioware EA $18.00 per character to make......... I'm not even convinced they spent $18.00 on recolouring the mount skin in total.


Again I don't see how selling something for less than you make it can be a rip off, I guess that is just me though.
thats fine if you think it is too much. Guess what you don't have to buy it. I think BMWs are overpriced but I don't have to buy one. I also don't go to BMW's website and compalin that their cars cost too much and say they are ripping me off.

and??? so they sold them at a loss? what's your point.


But ok you don't like the Veyron analogy switch that with Ferrari. At 200k each thats too much and it is not sold at a loss. So it must be bringing all of (who is it Mercedes that owns them now?) mercedes down.

Really though the fact that it is selling at loss should make me angry because it IS bring VW down then. At least selling the santa mount which cost $0 to make at $18 isn't hurting the company.