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Can we not buy this 'Expansion' with Cartel Coins?

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Can we not buy this 'Expansion' with Cartel Coins?
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LegendaryBlade
12.19.2012 , 01:52 AM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by lokdron View Post
We can't buy makeb with cartel coins!? Lets not forget the fact that it is not expanding class stories. *sigh*


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Bioware it looks like other mmo's are starting to wave at me please change this decision before I may consider going over there to finally say hello. -.-
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GarfieldJL
12.19.2012 , 02:08 AM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by Prettyevilish View Post
http://www.examiner.com/article/ea-a...to-subscribers This has been posted repeatedly. The video around the 5 minute mark. He specifically starts discussing Makeb and says it is going to be the largest "non-expansion piece of content" ever released. The moderator compares it to large, free expansion for other MMOs and he confirms that it will rival them (well he says "It's a whole planet" because he can't make any less vague of a promise than that).

It was a non-expansion, which by your own admission we are supposed to get for free for our sub money (and Bioware stated this too when f2p was released).

So to get around this 'free content updates' problem, they slapped expansion on what was originally called a non-expansion, and are charging for it.
Wouldn't this then qualify as false advertising then?

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ConradLionhart
12.19.2012 , 02:23 AM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman View Post
To answer the question posed here about purchasing Rise of the Hutt Cartel:

We'd like to clarify that Rise of the Hutt Cartel will be available for purchase through SWTOR.com/buy only, and there won't be an option to purchase it using Cartel Coins.
It would be nice if it was possible to purchase future content with Cartel Coins.

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Goretzu
12.19.2012 , 03:52 AM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by DieselCheezel View Post
And there goes the last straw. There is nothing currently in the cartel store I am interested in. If I can't buy expansions with what I've saved up there is no reason in me parting with any more money for this game.

/Unsubscribed.
It is pretty bad when you can't use Cartel Coins for new content.
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Goretzu
12.19.2012 , 03:56 AM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by vian View Post
Hmmm ... wasn't Hickman asking for feedback on the changes. I suppose we'd better go give him some. I get the distinct impression his brief is "See how much gouging you can get away with; sure it'll drive this game into the ground, but we'll know the consumer's pain point for the next one."

And I say that as someone who actually enjoys the game, and will be sorry when people are driven off by this financial experimentation.

This does seem to have been the policy since F2P.

Basically in the less than 2 months since F2P the very worst fear about F2P (the sort of things many said would and could "never" happen) have alreadly almost all come true.

I'm astounded and appalled equally by what Bioware EA is trying to get away with already.
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Devlonir
12.19.2012 , 04:36 AM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman View Post
To answer the question posed here about purchasing Rise of the Hutt Cartel:

We'd like to clarify that Rise of the Hutt Cartel will be available for purchase through SWTOR.com/buy only, and there won't be an option to purchase it using Cartel Coins.
I must honestly say that, despite me understanding many decisions (even the one where the early access is via their own payment method), this decisions really is probably the worse one made so far. Most here will probably call me a raving fanboi as I often do defend many of your decisions and try to be reasonable about them. Playing Devil's Advocate so to speak.

But the decision to remove this expac from your Cartel Store is really the worst kind of decision you can make. You are basicly removing one more reason to subscribe and are, therefore, removing reasons for people to keep supporting you and not just using the F2P version of the game.

I am personally all okay with having to buy the early access seperately. As that is it's own product. But not being able to eventually buy it in the Cartel Store once it goes live is something I see no reason for from both a technical and business point of view. Well, besides the obvious "We want everyone to pay extra real money and not save up Cartel Coins for this."

Please reconsider this decision as you have announced to do with the "Spaceship Parts pricing vs ingame effort required" decision.
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MentalCase
12.19.2012 , 04:47 AM | #167
To quote a lot of people: "This is the final straw!"

You said that uhmm... how many times now? Going free-to-play? The Cartel Market? The holiday items?
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Jammari
12.19.2012 , 04:56 AM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman View Post
To answer the question posed here about purchasing Rise of the Hutt Cartel:

We'd like to clarify that Rise of the Hutt Cartel will be available for purchase through SWTOR.com/buy only, and there won't be an option to purchase it using Cartel Coins.
Let the mass account cancellations begin! Can not believe you are trying to sell us content that you told us would be free!

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Devlonir
12.19.2012 , 04:58 AM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by Jammari View Post
Let the mass account cancellations begin! Can not believe you are trying to sell us content that you told us would be free!
And this... is still a false statement unless if you decided to not listen to anything else except 1 statement made during E3 in June.

So yeah.. the false advertisement point is still not valid.

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Eaglec
12.19.2012 , 05:21 AM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by MentalCase View Post
To quote a lot of people: "This is the final straw!"

You said that uhmm... how many times now? Going free-to-play? The Cartel Market? The holiday items?
Yeah, people have been saying that since launch... and then leaving.
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