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A_nonymous
12.18.2012 , 05:39 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by sinosleep View Post
If you think all it costs to bypass all the f2p restrictions is 10 - 15 dollars you must have never seen a math textbook in your life.

I spent 10 dollars on cartel coins and tried to play this game as a preferred played for about a week. I quickly learned that it was far, FAR cheaper to just sub than to bother trying to purchase even a 1/4 of the unlocks. The f2p model is *********** ATROCIOUS. It's seems as if their goal wasn't to have two different communities playing the game through different avenues, but simply beat non-subscribers about the head and face with ridiculous restrictions until they submit and just sub.

Against my better judgement, it worked. I'm not happy about it (which doesn't do Bioware any favors as far as keeping me around for long time) but I'm begrudgingly paying my sub until I finish getting my 8 toons to 50.
Well, I sat down and did the math. These are the things that I would want/need to unlock. This is me personally. Your mileage may vary.

Cargo hold access 475
Inventory slots 175
3rd crew skill 420
Custom titles 75
Hide head slot 350
Unify colors (but this doesn't work anyway) 350
Legacy name 100

I add this up and I find it costs me 1945 cartel coins. I can get 2400 for $20. So, for $20 I can unlock what I want. I'll be a premier subscriber so I'll get 500 coins a month. In months I can have all of this stuff or I can pop just a little bit more than the price of a one month sub and have what I want. That's my math. And I showed my work.
Gunwalker Legacy FTW.

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JefferyClark
12.18.2012 , 05:42 PM | #32
I honestly want an answer to this too. Why sub if we're still going to have to buy the content updates?

Seriously BW, bad move.
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Shingara
12.18.2012 , 05:44 PM | #33
Im starting to wonder that too, i could pay for the pre order as a subber, drop my sub, goto prefered, unlock everything else i want with a mix of the coins i have rolling about and a few more purchased and not pay a penny until the next paid for patch.
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Auraleus
12.18.2012 , 05:44 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by A_nonymous View Post
Well, I sat down and did the math. These are the things that I would want/need to unlock. This is me personally. Your mileage may vary.

Cargo hold access 475
Inventory slots 175
3rd crew skill 420
Custom titles 75
Hide head slot 350
Unify colors (but this doesn't work anyway) 350
Legacy name 100

I add this up and I find it costs me 1945 cartel coins. I can get 2400 for $20. So, for $20 I can unlock what I want. I'll be a premier subscriber so I'll get 500 coins a month. In months I can have all of this stuff or I can pop just a little bit more than the price of a one month sub and have what I want. That's my math. And I showed my work.
Disclaimer: (I know that is your personal math)

You also forget all the warzones and operation/flashpoint passes. Any F2P model that charges 4x the regular subscription rate for equality is maliciously designed. I can't really think of anything you can't buy... oh the credit cap. There is no way to remove the credit cap except by subscription, so I guess that doesn't factor in.

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A_nonymous
12.18.2012 , 06:17 PM | #35
No. I thought of them. I don't run FPs and WZ so it doesn't matter to me. FPs are 3 a week at the preferred level (where I would be as a former sub). I can't recall the last time I did that many FPs in a week. I've never done a WZ ever. I realize those would be deal breakers for some people, but to me they're not.

Edit: You are right about the credit cap, but it's 350k for a preferred player. I don't have anywhere close to that right now so I can't speak to how limiting that would be. My toon is lvl 42 and I've not hit that limit yet.
Gunwalker Legacy FTW.

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Torvik
12.18.2012 , 06:20 PM | #36
Go F2P here and subscribe to a better game elsewhere.

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Kleryk
12.18.2012 , 07:48 PM | #37
- You don't get rested and receive worse quest rewards which means being forced to do more boring grind side quests;
- Limited FP access;
- Limited WZ access;
- No OP access;
- Limited space mission access;
- Ugliness of your character (no unify colours, no hide head slot);
- Credit cap;
- Action bar cap;
- Inability to wear orange gear;
- Inability to trade;
- Limited customization and race selection.

Is that enough for you? I guess I could come up with a few more if I tried hard.
At least I have chicken.

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A_nonymous
12.18.2012 , 10:14 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Kleryk View Post
- You don't get rested and receive worse quest rewards which means being forced to do more boring grind side quests;
- Limited FP access;
- Limited WZ access;
- No OP access;
- Limited space mission access;
- Ugliness of your character (no unify colours, no hide head slot);
- Credit cap;
- Action bar cap;
- Inability to wear orange gear;
- Inability to trade;
- Limited customization and race selection.

Is that enough for you? I guess I could come up with a few more if I tried hard.
As I said previously, $20 one time gets me around most of that.
Gunwalker Legacy FTW.

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Hardwear
12.18.2012 , 10:54 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by A_nonymous View Post
I rarely run FPs unless I'm bored stiff and never PVP or do space missions.

You rarely run flash points so I'm assuming you don't do ops and you never pvp or do space missions?

My question is what do you do?
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Suzina
12.18.2012 , 11:04 PM | #40
My husband and I talked about cancelling today. It was such a sad talk, after so many years of waiting for this game to come out and so many months of waiting for management to get their act together.

But feeling this way every day just sucks. If I could get Jeff Hickman to resign I would do almost anything. I'd let him punch me in the face. I'd drop out of grad-school and work on the game myself for free and fix bugs full time. I would gladly pay 10 times what I have already paid in subscription fees to have management that doesn't treat their employees and paying customers so very very badly.
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