So much for not charging subs for Makeb

Provided it is an awesome update (how I read it implies there are features they haven't informed us of yet that are included) I don't mind paying £5-6 (yay subs!).

Interesting... they want us to pay for something they promised to be free of charge... Why I am not surprised... It was rather obvious when Bioware was bought by EA (embezzler a**holes)

http://www.examiner.com/article/ea-a...to-subscribers

They did not even manage to fix the bloody codex in a year. When you kill enemies, their bodies still remain standing. Ability lag is better but is is still not fixed. Etc etc...

What makes it double extra funny is that this same mindset doesn't require any proof whatsoever that the "expansion" is actually worth it.

One: "They said it would be free!"
Two: PROVE IT!

One: "there's no proof it's worth it!"
Two: We don't need any! Buy it now!

I don't know about closed beta but it was indeed stated a few months ago that expansions will be free. However there were many changes to the studio. Layoffs, people quit, f2p etc. So nothinh that was said back then is valid anymore because of all the changes. But they are putting out more content and honestly it doesn't cost that much. For subs it's less than a ticket for a movie. Yeah I think that's about it

I'll tell you what were paying for, new content and more levels, a new planet, more quests to do. So...ya its worth it to me. Its just $10, and I know its actually more but I ain't counting the sub to this so ya...$10.

Many say this, but I havent seen a definitive link stating it. Either way, even if they did...obviously alot has changed since beta/Launch. What may have been feasable then...may not be now.

To answer your question though, right now as it stands...no, it is not free. Subs get it for half price at 10 bucks...which is pretty reasonable IMO.

It's a CASH GRAB, people. Wake up and stop being sheep. Why is it a cash grab? Because they're asking for pre-order money on an expansion under the following terms:

1) No definite list of content
2) No hard release date

This is exactly like a car dealership taking FULL PAYMENT for car orders that have:

1) No list of specified options
2) No delivery date

A scam is a scam is a scam. How in the world can you accept payment from people (or be silly enough to pay someone) with no actual promise made on the service(s) to be delivered? It's completely unethical. You're all so willing to throw down your $10 and you don't even know what you're getting!!!

It's all about taking your money now and sometime down the road they'll give you something for it. If it sucks well too bad so sad.

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I have been a continuous subscriber since launch (only after I tried the game in closed beta) so it's not like I don't put my money where my mouth is. I believe in supporting the games you enjoy but once again the failings of this hot mess that is EA/Bioware/SWTOR are readily and abundantly obvious.

Shame on them for thinking so little of their customers.

Just to keep it fresh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txpfoYS36FQ

"It is basically the biggest non expansion pack piece of content that any online game has ever released at one time. It is a whole planet, I never heard of that being released, um, except in something like an expansion pack so it shows how much we really care about giving our fans what they have been asking for."

The moderator then goes on to state how its unusual to give away something that big for free, and Ohlen repeats that it really is that big of a content update.

Remember folks: right now it's about the PREORDER.
But there was already the inventory item (and thus, the cartel coin item) datamined in the last patch.
So if you really don't want to pay for the expansion, wait until it's actually out.
If it doesn't turn up as a CC store item then (which is possible), your rage is justified.
And if you don't believe me: so far the FAQ only talks about preorders. not about actual release.

You don't get to play early as a subscriber without paying extra, that's for sure. HURR DURR.

because Blizzard, Turbine, Bioware, Ea, etc.. are totally not allowed to change their minds or alter their plans at all. How awful of them to want to make a profit. yeah I totally agree