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SleepyKing
12.13.2012 , 10:12 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by mikebevo View Post
This...My main is a healer, no clue how many HMFP I have done...She has been 50 since January and has done HM FP daily since BH Comms have became a reward. Sometimes she does 2 or 3 a day when a guild dps or fresh tank want to do their daily random. Have a dps shadow too. She does not do them as often since she and her companions are geared, but in her time she did her fair share. Three, out of the hundreds of HMFP I have done do I remember people refusing to kill a boss that someone in the group wanted to kill and one of those times we still killed it after the tank refusing quit the group. So 2 out of the hundreds.

I have no clue how many times people didn't want to skip, but just went with the flow. It doesn't matter, had they really wanted to do it, then they should have spoken up.

I don't care either way, I will kill everything (well heal the group while they kill) or I will skip everything possible. However, I prefer skipping, not because of time or because I don't enjoy being social. I would rather skip because of repair bills. Many dps do not know kill order, so while I am getting hammered by strongs and weaks while trying to keep myself and the tank on our feet, they are busy hitting/shooting the elite or champion, you know the same one the tank is tanking...
This is my experience as well. The default/expected mode for most players is to skip as much as possible, but I have never been in a group that refused to kill bosses, listen to conversations and even kill trash for the XP if even one person in the group wanted to. A fast run is "normal", but if you ask the group to go on a boss killing spree, you'll almost never be denied, and nobody will hold it against you.

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12.13.2012 , 10:43 PM | #32
If I can I spacebar through the conversations, and never skip the boss fights. Trash will be skipped if possible, but never a boss, unless it's part of a bonus quest.

Sadly, I always get the people who never spacebar. I only ask once, though.

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12.14.2012 , 09:48 AM | #33
brb... making thread called "Those irritating whining people who insist on killing every boss and pull in HMs and then complain on the forums when their group kicks them because they have done the content 200 times and just want the comms"

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12.14.2012 , 09:59 AM | #34
I need to beat this FP as fast as possible so i can do other content..... What content exactly ? If itīs raidnight then you might have a point, but killing a boss is faster than doing a daily quest and most bosses grant a daily mark.
But then you might not need daily marks. Why would you need to rush through a FP then ? When you have you 5 BHcoms then what ? Daily quests ? Surely killing bosses in a FP is as fun as killing whatever it takes to finish your daily.

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12.14.2012 , 12:37 PM | #35
to the OP: Just tell them beforehand that you need the gear! Heck I wanted to gear my companion and told my GF group that I would be needing on Sorc drops and they we're fine with it. Killed all the bosses in HM LI too.. Like what another guy has posted here, communication is key. Tell them politely of your needs / experience (need tokens for columi gear / first time playing and havent seen story yet). Your mileage may vary!
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12.14.2012 , 01:14 PM | #36
Quite frankly im of the oinion that if you join a group & do a flashpoint, you should be prepared to do ALL of it.

Bioware should fix the exploits so that bosses CANNOT be skipped.
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12.14.2012 , 01:32 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Lostpenguins View Post
So when you're questing in the world zones do you engage every mob you see? Or do you try and avoid them?
There is a difference between going out of your way to kill things and killing things that are in a specified path. FPs are built to follow one specific path, with a few minor exceptions. There are even roads on your map that show you what the main path and side paths are.

But to answer your question, yes, I tend to walk when I do world quests and yes, I do tend to kill whatever is along the way, within reason. You also apparently chose to ignore my last line: "Plus, you have to plan for stupid. Plan for someone not paying attention running back from a respawn and aggroing that group you skipped. Not you have to wait even longer. Do them, it's faster."

I have had COUNTLESS groups where people facepulled a mob they forgot was there, or a patrol aggroed them, or they didn't remember how we skipped X mob and accidentally pulled them. I do my job the way I'm supposed to: I protect my group.

If you want to speedrun, say so at the start of a dungeon. But don't whine if people bail and you have to sit in queue. Also, as another note, when I do DPS I follow the tank. If they want to speedrun, fine, I speedrun.
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12.14.2012 , 06:14 PM | #38
There were quite a few times I played hardmodes in the past when people trying to skip MOBs or knock them off the ledges actually ended up costing us more time and difficulty than if we just cleared everything on our way through the instance. My favorite is stealth classes that skip MOB that are impossible to skip without stealth and then won't help you when you pull aggro. idiots. How hard is it to clear all the MOBs on the path through the FP? It's not.
Seriously, you're going to sit there and wait minutes to sleepdart a trash MOB so people can sneak past when it will literally take you 12 seconds to just clear them all out. I don't get it.

Just kill everything in your way, it's easier.
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12.14.2012 , 06:42 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Mazikeen View Post
There is a difference between going out of your way to kill things and killing things that are in a specified path....

...I have had COUNTLESS groups where people facepulled a mob they forgot was there, or a patrol aggroed them, or they didn't remember how we skipped X mob and accidentally pulled them .
^this exactly^

I'm not against skipping MOBs but there is a big difference between pulls that are easily skipped and pulls you have to go out of your way to avoid fighting. If it's on the main path and you can't easily skip it by hugging a wall or jumping over a ledge or something then chances are you're better off just killing them.
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12.15.2012 , 12:43 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by LarryRow View Post
brb... making thread called "Those irritating whining people who insist on killing every boss and pull in HMs and then complain on the forums when their group kicks them because they have done the content 200 times and just want the comms"

Okay, I'm back. That didn't all fit in the subject line.
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