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uziforyou
12.14.2012 , 09:38 AM | #871
Quote: Originally Posted by pillig View Post
I am a pvper and don't normally post on forums, however the direction the cartel pack going is absolutely DISGUSTING. I thought all those nice blaster, lightsaber, color crystal, etc should have been drops for raid, but you guys choose to ask people to buy it. I felt the pvers had been betrayed and disrespected.

BIOFAIL your greed really knows no bound.
You're right! Pardon EA/Bioware for trying to use our beloved SWTOR to make money. For shame!
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12.14.2012 , 09:46 AM | #872
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I've never seen an amature mod team make an entire MMO.
Did you miss where I said after the employment shakeup? That means the group who came in after the game was already made.
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Goretzu
12.14.2012 , 09:55 AM | #873
Quote: Originally Posted by Jetronin View Post
BioWare have already addressed this saying that they have separate teams working on both and it will not effect new Ops sets.

Also so far they are just re skins with some Holographic's on them, which IMO makes them look worse.

Finally, player spending money on them, means that they have more money to develop more stuff throughout the game, so player spending money to get these weapons, means there are more resources to develop more content which mans you will get new pretty guns faster. IF they made them ugly, no one would spend money, there would be less resources, you would get less shiny new looking guns long run.

There is NO guarrentee of any money from the SWTOR Cashshop going into SWTOR development, it goes into EA coffers, what then comes out of that (and what stays as EA profits and shareholder dividends) is entirely up to EA.

Buying of the Cashshop no more guareentees SWTOR development than having a Warhammer Online subscription guareentees SWTOR development or buying an EAsports game.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Vandicus
12.14.2012 , 09:58 AM | #874
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
There is NO guarrentee of any money from the SWTOR Cashshop going into SWTOR development, it goes into EA coffers, what then comes out of that (and what stays as EA profits and shareholder dividends) is entirely up to EA.

Buying of the Cashshop no more guareentees SWTOR development than having a Warhammer Online subscription guareentees SWTOR development or buying an EAsports game.
No guarantee, but in all probability the revenue that a product makes determines how much development funding it gets, unless you're claiming EA develops products not based on profit but out of the goodness of their hearts?
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CelCawdro
12.14.2012 , 09:59 AM | #875
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
There is NO guarrentee of any money from the SWTOR Cashshop going into SWTOR development, it goes into EA coffers, what then comes out of that (and what stays as EA profits and shareholder dividends) is entirely up to EA.

Buying of the Cashshop no more guareentees SWTOR development than having a Warhammer Online subscription guareentees SWTOR development or buying an EAsports game.
Precisely. EA didn't reach its completely asinine goal of toppling WoW, so they held off developing major content for 4+ months to get a secondary source of revenue implemented. I have no idea why people think that, with that on their track record, any of this money is going to be put back into the game.

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DarthZak
12.14.2012 , 10:12 AM | #876
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
No guarantee, but in all probability the revenue that a product makes determines how much development funding it gets, unless you're claiming EA develops products not based on profit but out of the goodness of their hearts?
"It" being the Cartel Market right? Because if that pulls in enough revenue it will get loads of support
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Goretzu
12.14.2012 , 10:15 AM | #877
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
No guarantee, but in all probability the revenue that a product makes determines how much development funding it gets, unless you're claiming EA develops products not based on profit but out of the goodness of their hearts?
That's a logical fallacy.

Just because EA obviously likes profits (as all companies do) doesn't mean that development resources are therefore directly or indirectly linked to any profits.

If EA sees SWTOR as turning a large profit with very small development resources they may well just be very happy with that and channel profits elsewhere (this is certainly what the EA seemed to be leaning towards with their last statement about SWTOR not being core to the company).

After all want management accountant or MD doesn't like to see money for nothing?
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Goretzu
12.14.2012 , 10:19 AM | #878
Quote: Originally Posted by CelCawdro View Post
Precisely. EA didn't reach its completely asinine goal of toppling WoW, so they held off developing major content for 4+ months to get a secondary source of revenue implemented. I have no idea why people think that, with that on their track record, any of this money is going to be put back into the game.
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthZak View Post
"It" being the Cartel Market right? Because if that pulls in enough revenue it will get loads of support
This and this too.

Even if there is more money channelled into development, it will likely BE the area that is generating the big spike profits, the Cashshop.


As opposed to the areas which generate more modest but sustained long-term profit from subscribers; such as story, end game, PvP, RvR which are all very expensive with a lower profit/development cost margin compared to Cashshop tat.
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Vandicus
12.14.2012 , 10:28 AM | #879
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
That's a logical fallacy.

Just because EA obviously likes profits (as all companies do) doesn't mean that development resources are therefore directly or indirectly linked to any profits.

If EA sees SWTOR as turning a large profit with very small development resources they may well just be very happy with that and channel profits elsewhere (this is certainly what the EA seemed to be leaning towards with their last statement about SWTOR not being core to the company).

After all want management accountant or MD doesn't like to see money for nothing?
You should probably learn a bit more about the rules of logic before claiming a logical fallacy.

A company does not necessarily provide more resources to profit sources, true, and does not necessarily provide additional resources based on the relative success of a product, true, but in the overwhelming majority of cases they do. Furthermore, this is in line with EA's practice with similar products. In all probability, EA uses normal business practices when it comes to allocating funds in regards to SWTOR.

That TOR is not "core" to the company is unsurprising. Everything that EA has put into Bioware and developing TOR is only roughly half a year of profit to them. If TOR had WoW like earnings, it'd increase their yearly revenue by less than 30%. Their initial aim of 1 million subscribers would've been less than a 5% change in total revenue. In the big scheme of EA, TOR has always been a relatively tiny part.
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Vandicus
12.14.2012 , 10:31 AM | #880
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
This and this too.

Even if there is more money channelled into development, it will likely BE the area that is generating the big spike profits, the Cashshop.


As opposed to the areas which generate more modest but sustained long-term profit from subscribers; such as story, end game, PvP, RvR which are all very expensive with a lower profit/development cost margin compared to Cashshop tat.
Whether its entirely cash shop development or game development is something that varies more heavily from business to business I'll give you that. Bioware policy on it from ME3 has been a combination of development of market product and content though, so I think that at least some resources being devoted to content development is likely. This really depends on what their financial analysis team tells them.
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