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Bubble Stun over-reaction

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Bubble Stun over-reaction

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Vladnar
12.13.2012 , 03:53 AM | #1
Ive hardly ever seen it in game and its just another short stun, theres so many, just load up on grenades and you'll do the same....virtually.

The bubble stun in sorcs comes through the lighning tree, rubbish in pvp as you have to stand still so much weaker than the madness tree and little use for healers really as they'll be giving up so much healing to get it.

You can lose healing for it or lose madness damage for it. hybrid...either way its the only thing that makes lighning even worth existing.

I hybrid heal and im not wasting all those points just to get it and annoy everyone but really, its certainly not that interesting an ability.....id much rather be doing 8k damage hits on crit.

Itll be just on the caster soon enough anyway.
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Digimanbyte_ID
12.13.2012 , 07:25 AM | #2
Yes it would be nice for them to review our tree a bit, but right now even for 1.7 it looks bleak.

As for those who hate bubble stun, focus on the sorcerer. If anything the bubble stun effectiveness does absolutely nothing unless put on an obvious overpowered class.

Blame that, not the CC and shame on Austin Peckenpaugh for thinking it was the core problem. That ****** must play a rage spec maurader cause there is obviously a reason why they are so freaking hard not to die against.

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Pahomi
12.13.2012 , 07:59 AM | #3
Play a melee class and then come back and talk. Bubble is absurdly overpowered and just plain broken.

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LarryRow
12.13.2012 , 08:00 AM | #4
OP, you've obviously never been in a warzone with a premade that had one of these guys. Sometimes a PUG will have the talent too. I've been in matches where literally the entire enemy team is bubbled. And their dps are not shy about clicking it off to stun you.

It would almost be ok if the bubble gave proper resolve, but at 300 resolve for a hard 3 second stun, you can still be mezzed by, say, Awe and not have a full resolve bar. Or get hit by Shoot First for 300 and then they click off their bubble for 300 and you are still vulnerable to dirty kick. Just a couple of examples.
A classic sig that should not be lost:
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Stunned , pew pew hack slash , stunned , running backward circles, stunned cannot move, pew pew, break stun, 30 second snare, wha?!?!!? stunned, knockdown, ...less stun more pew pew and hacknslash please.

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Loladarulz
12.13.2012 , 08:05 AM | #5
Bubble stun is very annoying and can't be easily dealt by melee. Say you attack sorc - you will get stunned most likely. Sorc runns - you need to close the gap. Time passes. You still chase sorc. She has more stuns. By now she can cast new bubble. Repeat.
It is ofcourse possible to kill the sorc but it is quite hard - especially if someone helps him/her a bit.

If you try to switch targets, sorc bubbles your new target. Same problem. Try to attack sorc - sorc bubles self. Etc. Sorc constantly bubbling their team in WZs is nightmare for melee.

Some melee classes can try to break bubble with range attacks - which are very limited to these classes. And the problem is one can't know for sure if the bubble will break or absorb attack. Its annoying mostly.

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Digimanbyte_ID
12.13.2012 , 08:15 AM | #6
If against a hybrid its difficult, but thats what happens when bioware boosts melee damage and nerfs sorcerers. This is exactly like the soul link/ soul siphon spec in WoW. The class was doing so terrible that players decided to hybrid the class inorder to survive and do damage.

I am shock so many of you are arguing are melee classes who do so much damage and sorcerers dish out so little it takes so long to kill them.

So really no point arguing for a nerf right off the bat. You want change then demand bioware fix the survivability, damage talent trees to make bubblebhybrid not worth speccing anymore

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Hairyzac
12.13.2012 , 08:20 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Loladarulz View Post
Bubble stun is very annoying and can't be easily dealt by melee. Say you attack sorc - you will get stunned most likely. Sorc runns - you need to close the gap. Time passes. You still chase sorc. She has more stuns. By now she can cast new bubble. Repeat.
It is ofcourse possible to kill the sorc but it is quite hard - especially if someone helps him/her a bit.

If you try to switch targets, sorc bubbles your new target. Same problem. Try to attack sorc - sorc bubles self. Etc. Sorc constantly bubbling their team in WZs is nightmare for melee.

Some melee classes can try to break bubble with range attacks - which are very limited to these classes. And the problem is one can't know for sure if the bubble will break or absorb attack. Its annoying mostly.
Sorcs have one targeted stun on a 1 minute cooldown. Please stop spreading misinformation.

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itsmymillertime
12.13.2012 , 08:25 AM | #8
The bubble stun is a buff that you can toggle off at any time before it normally pops and thus is an exploit. Its a free stun that you can use anytime it is on you.

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LarryRow
12.13.2012 , 08:45 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Hairyzac View Post
Sorcs have one targeted stun on a 1 minute cooldown. Please stop spreading misinformation.
A very nitpicky thing to say that more less avoided the point. Sorcs have 1 hard stun (not including bubble), but also knockback, mez, 50% snare, speed, channeled snare attack. In other words, many tools to help them stay at range. The problem is they have a hard time bursting down their target before leap comes off cooldown.

The guy you quoted seems to want to remove the bubble as a defensive option for the sorc, and I think that's going too far. But he's spot on that sorcs giving out bubble stuns to the whole team creates a nightmare.
A classic sig that should not be lost:
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Stunned , pew pew hack slash , stunned , running backward circles, stunned cannot move, pew pew, break stun, 30 second snare, wha?!?!!? stunned, knockdown, ...less stun more pew pew and hacknslash please.

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Pahomi
12.13.2012 , 08:50 AM | #10
I agree, sorcs can keep their bubbles as they are, but applying them on their whole team just ruins the whole warzone experience.