Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

Ok let's look at your way.

Do I believe that a geared premade fighting a pug group requires much skill at all?

Maybe, depends on the PuG Group. if the PuG group are good players that want to win then the premade will need to fight to win it. If they can win through overpower more power to the premade, and that the PuG tried to at least give it a shot. No biggie, and good for them to try. If they make calls and do there best all good. If they didnt make inc call when we coulda won, if they decided to 3 cap when they shouldnt then yea I'm going to be pissed and annoyed.

Do I believe there is much skill needed to play the fotm dps classes with a pocket healer on you when the people you are fighting are randoms who don't know each other and have far less gear on average?

Being FOTM DPS means jack if you dont know the rotation and have the understanding of the class properly. Just because they're OP doesnt mean in the hands of a scrub that I should be scared. Hell if by anything a scrub Mara is going to be a joke. Does it take much skill, it might, no guarantee that being a recruit geared level 50 mara = I win right?

Also, having a pocket healer means jack especially on premades or smart PuG who will zerg the healers ***. If the healers get zerged like a boss then it merely only gives the FOTM DPS class a few more seconds to win, now unless this FOTM DPS is uber skilled that can kill anyone including peeps in Full Elite War Hero in 2 seconds I'm going to favor the zerg.

If a Pocket healer and FOTM DPS out gears, out skills, and out plays the zerg then more power to them and good on them for winning. It'd just mean the zerg need to work out a better rotation and keep at it.

No one is FORCING anyone to join a group. This notion that players are banding together as some sort of last resort is absurd.

You are just a bad player looking for ways to justify your badness. And hoping to become some sort of hero to the rest of the bads, who will no doubt look up to you as a role model of bads everywhere.

In the real world, Jedi school would have kicked you out for being emo. Sith school would have simply murdered you. Panda school would embrace you with open arms.

You sir are an idiot.

But seeing that you are using Real World scenarios. Let's try this:

So Lebron James left Cleveland to join the Miami Heat, so he must be a bad player right? I mean he just got Finals MVP for winning the NBA 2011-2012 season right cause he got favourable calls right? (NOTE: I am a Bulls fan not a Heat fan).

But let's use SWTOR World Scenarios here:

A good player that is playing with PuG is like going to keeping PuGGing if his team is stupid not to try to win? Right? If that person is you, good for you! You must be so good you can beat anyone right?

So let's put this in light. In RWZ, what killed it wasnt to do with good killing bads, it was a mixture of server issues, latency and wierd **** going on in RWZ.

You also know why RWZ got killed, is because people abused it to get RWZ comms in the first place, they queue dodged those that were "too good" and tried to queue to face each other to get the max comms.

So ok, let's ask this question, those "good" players should be doing what?

- Pugging with bads? If they wont listen then those "good" players are going to have fun amirite?
- Reroll to the other side? If they want to but now you're forcing them. And they cant be fudged.
- Play another class? Same thing as Rerolling.
- Do nothing and unsub? Thats possible, but not good for Bioware no?
- Premading with friends while waiting for RWZ? I think this is the choice they would choose for MAX enjoyment.

Any reason why those who run in premades because they don't like losing don't want their own bracket? Hmm...guess that sorta answers itself.

Playing to win.

I didn't bother reading the rest, that part just happened to catch my eye.

I'm not going to bother arguing stupidity with you. I will let your own stupidity speak for itself. The good players here know you're bad. We don't need to prove that to each other. Rather, it is bad players like you who feel the need to prove you are good.

You can do that one of two ways:

1= be good
2= cram it down everyone's throats trying to convince them that you are good (or that you SHOULD be good, or that you WOULD be good if... <INSERT ARBITRARY DEMAND HERE>)

The real goods let their actions do the talking. That is why I'm not going to try to debate you on this. The more vocal you get, the more bad you are showing yourself to be. It's called "Small Man Syndrome". You can Google that. Keep in mind that "smallness" can be metaphorical, so don't go thinking there's necessarily some sort of literal implication there. I know that will probably be the first and perhaps only conclusion your one-dimensional mind will attempt to come to.

Being good takes lot of time and work and even that wont quarantee that you actually woulld be good. Some come here to have fun and relax not to work, some dont have enough time, some just dont have talent to perform well no matter how hard they try. Over 20 abilities to use and you should learn to counter with them, I dont even know most of the time with what ability foes are attacking, let alone counter them. This isnt easy game (at least for me).

But anyway, I found my solution in under 50 wz and this game will be dead before all my alts hit 50 if this keeps going. Its better to be some use in under 50 than be burden in 50.

It starting to be VERY clear that us bads or casuals or newcomers and pros or competitive players wont fit in same warzones, so maybe there should be minor league for us and major league with skill based rating requirement for them?

Until cross server queues become a reality, there simply won't be enough of a population to support two separate queues. RE: We have two separate queues now. One of which is mostly inactive.

Arguing for anything else in the meantime is a band-aid "solution" that would cause more problems than it would create.

I was rail shotted 5-6 times one after the other from a premade group of powertechs. This sure is fun. Its like hai thar 20k hp how are you doing ---> rail shots x5 ----> where did you go hp? come bac***kk

I was kinda thinking that myself.

Everyone knows this is the case. Even them.

It's just that the same type of person who is like that, is also too much of a coward to admit it.