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Pay2Win Space Missions ???

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ramseyw
12.11.2012 , 06:17 PM | #341
I logged on this morning after spending the last few weeks grinding out space dailies so i could buy the parts, my plan was to save up buy the schematics for my cybertech, i had spent week gathering the high end materials needed to craft them so i could be one of the first to sell them and hopefully make some profit on the GTN, I didn't see that these same parts were on the cartel market as that had not been announced anywhere in te lead up to 1.6 that I had seen, so i go though the trouble of expending the fleet coms, the daily coms and the credits, and start to craft some of the parts, only to notice when i got to the GTN to see how they are selling that they were going for fa less than the materials costs, only then did i realize that people were just buying them and put these parts up on the market totally making the ability to craft them useless, so that's it I have 4 days left on my subscription, i was slated for it to renew for 6 months but i stooped that, glad i found this out before i wasted anymore money on this game, this is ridiculous

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Karl-Just-Karl
12.11.2012 , 06:18 PM | #342
Been subbed since launch. If any of the P2W cartel stuff makes its way into the avatar part of the game I'll simply leave. Bad move. Really bad.

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JimG
12.11.2012 , 06:26 PM | #343
I agree. Putting this stuff for sale in the market was a bad move considering they assured the player base that the cartel market wouldn't go the P2W route.

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battycoda
12.11.2012 , 06:26 PM | #344
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BJWyler
12.11.2012 , 06:31 PM | #345
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Lol... this game should favor what you do "outside of this game". If someone gives a lot of money to Bioware, do they deserve to have a max level, full BiS character, w/out playing the game for a minute? Can you obtain the exact same stuff? Yes. Do you think, for any second, that this is fair behavior?
Isn't that what MMOs do now - GW2 as the most recent example. Aren't live events, one time events, holiday events and the like all favoring those who have the time in Real Life to participate. Aren't 4 hour 25 man raids favoring those with the time in real life to dedicate to them? Is that fair to the player who can only play a couple of hours per week let alone per night?

When I walk into a Casino (not that I am a gambling man, but for example), should I think it unfair that the High Rollers are treated better than I am? If I go to a restaurant a few times a year, should I think it unfair that the person who goes there multiple times per week gets better seating than I do, or they get a special desert on the house and I don't? In terms of SWTOR specifically, I am sure there are a great many players who cannot afford a regular sub, and therefore play for free and will never spend a dime. Should they have equal treatment and enjoy everything I get as a subscriber?

So yes, those with more money will almost certainly have the advantage and get better treatment than those without. It may not be fair, but again, that's life and anyone who ever told you Life was supposed to be fair was an idiot.

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Sorenia
12.11.2012 , 06:34 PM | #346
SWTOR pretty much died for me today. The occasional cash shop stuff was fine. I could buy it on the GTN with a bit of work. I don't mind spending another $10 or $20 a month.

Pay2Win and yet another round of gambling boxes this fast is too much though. I expected this from the start but sad to see it happen so quick.

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Piam
12.11.2012 , 06:42 PM | #347
By most of your P2Win definitions, wasn't the game already pay to win with the crystals, artifact slotted level 31 gear, and speeders?

I'm more concerned that the game is pushing cartel coins vs long grind even to subscribers.

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ArrA
12.11.2012 , 06:46 PM | #348
This is garbage Bioware. I brought my guild back to the game because of F2P model. Everyone of us subbed again. And now you pull a greedy stunt like this (It is pay 2 win). If your plan was to make a quick last ditched cash grab I guess you have succeeded. You have yet again proven to us your vision for the game is not about the gamers.

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BJWyler
12.11.2012 , 07:04 PM | #349
Quote: Originally Posted by Piam View Post
By most of your P2Win definitions, wasn't the game already pay to win with the crystals, artifact slotted level 31 gear, and speeders?

I'm more concerned that the game is pushing cartel coins vs long grind even to subscribers.
It seems by most definitions that the game was P2W by virtue of having a sub, which grants me access to all the content by paying $15 a month for it.

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HammersteinSW
12.11.2012 , 07:08 PM | #350
I'm done with the space mission BS, I'm usually decent enough at twitch games, but this is nonsense. I failed the Cha Raaba Assault mission now 10 times in a row with tier 7 equipment.

You get to the asteroid field and then destroy the 2 merc ships, easy as pie so far, then comes the mine field, the mines have shields and take several hits to kill, so I use my ECM there, otherwise I get blown up my them, no matter how much I evade and roll. Then comes the frigate and then the next wave of merc ships which can hit you even when you don't see them. I always die horribly in this part.

There is a difference between challenging and stupidly hard, this is not fun and I will probably forget that a space part exists for now.