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life day items on cartel market insulting.

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Oggthebase
12.11.2012 , 06:06 AM | #131
I agree that the fireworks and life day celebration items is getting heavy on the camel back, and it's getting close to the last straw for me.

I left Wow because I felt that my subscription was paying for the development of Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 instead of real content for the game, and I have been patient with SWTOR for a whole year, but the direction the game seems to be taking is bad.

Lately I had been thinking to ask friends to try the free option, but somehow this latest patch just woke me up...

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WookieIsshe
12.11.2012 , 06:08 AM | #132
I do not participate in the silly on rails space game so it doesn't affect me at all. I will patiently await the much anticipated SSSP that will be announced sometime in the near future.

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Goretzu
12.11.2012 , 06:08 AM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by Nythain View Post
Assuming "Life Day" is something like X-Mas, the entire concept is secret gift giving. If one chooses to indulge before the day of celebration, it's not anyone's fault but their own. F2P might want to buy these packs and sets under the anticipation of not being able to participate in any subscriber event, but as a subscriber I'm not buying squat until I find out if I'm getting it for free later. And if I don't, and I really want said items, then it only takes a matter of minutes to hours to purchase some CC and get the items before they poof.

All I'm really getting at is, it's ultimately too soon to tell what could be in store for us subscribers. Everyone is raging over 1.6 patch notes introducing the items to the market near the beginning of the month. There's still plenty of time for Life Day's mythical figure to leave me a gift of some sort since I've been a good little boy and have a monthly subscription.
So that you can see and look at items on the Cashshop is not "secret", yet for some reason that you would be able to get them later in an event would be "secret"?

Sorry I just don't follow the logic there, unless they are trying to trick people into buying them from the Cashshop.

Either way 4 months worth of subscriber coins for ONE pack for ONE character is far too costly.
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Nythain
12.11.2012 , 06:09 AM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by ThrillInstructor View Post
All you can do as a subber is to save your monthly tokens in order to be prepared for phase 2......or ypu pay up or shut up.
Or you go play something else and whine about everything they do until something else comes along... lather rinse repeat. So far, I haven't seen anything made available in the Cartel Market, that was fundamental to the gameplay, that I haven't been awarded for free courtesy of my subscription. If this changes, then I will leave. Until then, I will enjoy my game and continue to pay my subscription, awarding me all the perks and privileges and fundamental gameplay aspects that f2p has to unlock with micro transactions.

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Goretzu
12.11.2012 , 06:11 AM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by ThrillInstructor View Post
Well, BW did say in last week's live stream with the devs that they'd be providing new items for the CM as part of Life Day. Nobody said anything back then.
Actually, I'm rather surprised at the naivety and lack of foresight regarding this f2p system. The moment BW announced that subbers were to be given a certain amount of Cartel Tokens, everybody who knows a little bit about this kind of system should have concluded that the times where the 'good new stuff' is included in your sub fee are over.
Welcome on the slopes of Mount Micro Payment! And boy are they going to make you climb it!
This is just phase 1: Spend all your Cartel Tokens on useless fluff and stuff. Very soon you'll find items and unlocks in the store you will actually need for a full game experience. Of course you can get them as a subber....if you save up three months of tokens. But if you want to play it NOW, you'll have to cough up extra money for it.
F2p in this shape is a slow poison that will slowly seep into the bloodstream of the entire game. There is no real antidote. All you can do as a subber is to save your monthly tokens in order to be prepared for phase 2......or ypu pay up or shut up.


People had (quite rightly it seems) fears that F2P/Cashshop would quickly turn into this.

In fact when the Life Day cashshop items were mention there were threads on this very issue.



However I don't think anyone in their worst dreams back then thought they would cost SO much.

4 months worth of subscriber coins per pack (or per character) is an amazingly high price.



(and you simply CANNOT "save up" as these are "limited time" items)
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decembero
12.11.2012 , 06:14 AM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Biggilus View Post
IT's all good. I don't want to grind out thousands of comms for the space stuff, glad it's on the cartel.
It's so massively NOT all good its not even funny. Nobody likes to grind and grind but don't u think you should be able to earn space stuff? rather than use your credit card and beat all the missions by tonight?

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Goretzu
12.11.2012 , 06:14 AM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by Nythain View Post
Or you go play something else and whine about everything they do until something else comes along... lather rinse repeat. So far, I haven't seen anything made available in the Cartel Market, that was fundamental to the gameplay, that I haven't been awarded for free courtesy of my subscription. If this changes, then I will leave. Until then, I will enjoy my game and continue to pay my subscription, awarding me all the perks and privileges and fundamental gameplay aspects that f2p has to unlock with micro transactions.
The space mods are, for space anyway.

But quite simply I've never seen a MMORPG traditional subscription model or F2P/Cashshop Freemium model where you have to pay for holiday items, never mind pay 4 months worth of subsciber coins for per character.
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Eillack
12.11.2012 , 06:16 AM | #138
Isn't it $20 for a one time purchase of all the items?

But yes, BW said there would be other ways to get these items...where is that other way?
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Goretzu
12.11.2012 , 06:16 AM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by WookieIsshe View Post
I do not participate in the silly on rails space game so it doesn't affect me at all. I will patiently await the much anticipated SSSP that will be announced sometime in the near future.
Well disreguarding that it's (SSSP) likely to be co-op on-the-rails (arriving in late 2014), given what we've seen here do you really thing they wouldn't P2W and Jump to Lightspeed expansion?
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Goretzu
12.11.2012 , 06:19 AM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by Oggthebase View Post
I agree that the fireworks and life day celebration items is getting heavy on the camel back, and it's getting close to the last straw for me.

I left Wow because I felt that my subscription was paying for the development of Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 instead of real content for the game, and I have been patient with SWTOR for a whole year, but the direction the game seems to be taking is bad.

Lately I had been thinking to ask friends to try the free option, but somehow this latest patch just woke me up...


The worst I foresaw was them making you pay for Life Day items at maybe 1/4 of the current cost. I'm totally shocked that no only have they gone this route, but pushed the costs to such an extortionately high levels.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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