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PVE DPS: Vanguard or Guardian

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PVE DPS: Vanguard or Guardian

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mykaelmjr
12.09.2012 , 09:34 PM | #1
Hello all,

I leveled both of these classes for the storyline and love the lore behind both. I left for a few months and have recently come back. I am no longer required to tank for my ops team and have been given the opportunity to dps. I was wondering which class pulls ahead and which brings more for an Ops team. I understand that vanguards had some of their ranged attacks reduced to 10m, which shouldn't matter since the class plays in melee anyway. Which class is better for dps?

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grallmate
12.09.2012 , 09:38 PM | #2
Both are viable so play whatever one is more fun.

If you're after pure DPS numbers I believe VG pulls ahead but the Assault rotation is a little stale in a protracted fight. Heaps of fun for short encounters though. Tactics rotation feels much more fluid and intuitive but the DPS is a bit lower.
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Banegio
12.09.2012 , 09:50 PM | #3
vanguard
top pve dps classes atm are probably: gunslinger, sentinel, vanguard

see it for yourself:
http://www.torparse.com/statistics/Overall/Damage

guardian brings armor debuff

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mykaelmjr
12.10.2012 , 01:04 AM | #4
For vanguard, is tactics more stationary? It looks like it's main ability, pulse cannon, is channeled.

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wetslampigduex
12.10.2012 , 10:13 AM | #5
play the 3rd tree... the middle is trash, don't listen to these fools saying the middle tree is some how better. Go with results...Pyro/assault smash's ap/tactics in dps

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wetslampigduex
12.10.2012 , 10:15 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Banegio View Post
vanguard
top pve dps classes atm are probably: gunslinger, sentinel, vanguard

see it for yourself:
http://www.torparse.com/statistics/Overall/Damage

guardian brings armor debuff
Just being a smart *** here but, I believe if you sort by overall it goes Gunslinger, Powertech(ME!), then sentinel for top dps recorded on there. :-)

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Gyronamics
12.12.2012 , 11:01 AM | #7
Sort it by endgame operations full length fights to filter out the BS....
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Satedbuffalo
12.14.2012 , 09:20 AM | #8
Among other issues, one significant problem with both is the lack of a reliable threat dump. The Guardian has an on-damage threat dump, but that alone makes it somewhat unreliable. The Vanguard has none.

I've run with pyros and juggs, mostly guys coming straight out of PvP, and they can be very, very good, even when undergeared vis-a-vis other members of the ops group. They bring utility/damage increases that can be very helpful.

The threat issue raises its head on the most difficult content where every ounce of DPS needs to be squeezed out. Dumping threat on CD, or close to it, is the sign of good DPS and practically a requirement if your tank makes a mistake. Without that function, the classes just aren't what they could/should be.