Time for a PvP Fix

The entire problem with Sorcs:

There is essentially no scaling whatsoever for Sorc DPS abilities.

Madness Sorc? Your DoTs in WH augmented won't hit any harder than the ones put out by someone in Recruit MK-1 Gear, let alone MK-2. In fact, nothing of yours scales at all. At least you get access to useful instant casts, unlike your fellow DPS tree. Oh, and some self-heals that aren't entirely too shabby.

Lightning? LOLOLOL, by the time you actually get to the end of your interminable cast times (Only, and I mean the only DPS spec on the Empire side, reliant on Alacrity to get anything done at all other than respawning), your target has already moved out of range. Oh, and to top it off, your stuff doesn't scale either, and you couldn't do enough damage to break a wet paper bag, with help from three other Lightning Sorcs.

Why does everyone think we are supposed to be a glass cannon class? We have plenty of tools for survival to make up for low armor. We get a bubble and a free self heal, both on low cooldown. Low cooldown force speed. Casted self heals. What else do you want?

Our DPS could stand a slight buff. That's it. Most of the suggestions in here would make us way OP. A 5 percent damage buff would be fine, especially if it helped our burst.

Consider that it's almost unanimous- that 9 out of 10 or more people in the class feedback thread agree that everyone else considers this class a free kill- we don't get to that point if there isn't something very wrong with the class- and I guarantee if you'd asked those same questions before 1.2, the responses would be extremely different.

We are not in a good place right now, and it's going to take more than band aid fixes to make us not just viable- but as much a threat as anything else.

Oh really? The more I read your posts, it seems to me you seem to be in the lucky position of having a team carry you, either that or you're trolling. I really don't want to think the latter, but I don't know how you can keep reposting this nonsense.

Slight dps buff, like what? I mentioned sorc dps was way below other ACs by 15%, you remember, told me to check ToRparse claiming that sorc/sage dps is in the top 50s and that we are like only 11% behind snipers in theory. I then post the information, that gaps as large as 26% exist with the closest being 15% where sorcs actually made it into the top 50 and here you are claiming a 5% buff tops is all that is needed.

If we were truly that survivable and valued we'd have a role in RWZ as a steady member- outside of bubble stuns.

A 5% damage nerf would still put us under most pve parses- and we'd still be way too low in the burst department.

Our survivability is not as good as you think.

Unfortunately- we have no access to BW's metrics- but the last player study of RWZ over about 200 games put sorcs as the most deaths per match- 11, while marauders had the least at 5.

Also- the force speed has a longer CD than leaps- look at melee classes. Mara and jugg have a shorter CD leap, but, can make that even shorter, or get a second leap- or say, carnage gets two extra roots, one on a measely 12 second CD.

We have no baseline root- and full madness is almost never taken so that leaves us with needing to hybrid lightning for a root- not pure lightning though because pure lightning is terrible damage. We have no perma snare- our instant snare has a 6 sec duration, 12 sec CD- force lightning roots us and thus is not ideal for kiting.


We have range yes- but the cost for range in every other mmo is this- you get range, and your abilities have cast times. We have that- plus no defensives, plus lower burst, plus weak armour, plus no CC breaks, etc...


Yes, we have force speed- but it can be countered by anything as DPS, and only heal hybrids can at least avoid being rooted- but guess what, a mara can either root you if you're dps, or force choke you, or mez you if you're a healer, wasting your one escape.

The KB has very little distance to it- useful for knocking off huttball ramps but not for really eluding someone (the root in lightning is the good thing there).

Self heal is 30 sec CD- even using it, no fight against a burster will last that long- thus, you get to heal 3-5k hp, less if you've been trauma debuffed. Bubble is about 4k health.

Sounds good? That's one smash crit, or a rail shot/punch combo. Yes, you can waste maybe 2 or 3 GCDs- but not only do these classes still have more burst and sustained after that- which they're hitting you for far more damage (light armour is about 18% damage reduction, medium about 33%- so you're taking a good chunk more than a mara- nevermind all their defensives)- but their smash or double rail shot combo and thermal, etc... will be back up long before that heal is.

Casted self heals are very easy to interrupt.


But nevermind that- consider the reality- that you are first target, you are squishy, you have no defensive ability or mobility when locked down- and many other classes can and will chain root you to death. All the while- you have nothing to offer a team for DPS- you can't kill healers, you can't clear doors or nodes, you can't break a caster or pressure a healer- not as well as PTs, mara, juggs, sins or snipers can.


I don't want us to be OP- I want us to be at a point where we have as much value in a RWZ dps slot as any other player- a 5% damage boost is not going to do that- those classes survive better, move better, protect/take objectives better. We may even lose our one spot- as healer/stun bubble once we lose the stun bubble to a second healing operative.

Then what are we? Mercs?