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Godlymuppet
12.07.2012 , 11:31 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
You jumped the shark right here IMO.

It's not that you do not do "any" DPS so stop exaggerating. It IS true that with a tank set of gear, you will not out-DPS a DPS spec/gear character that has been optimized for maximum dps. But so what? A tank, doing a dps role when not needed to tank is fine and does not need to be epeen in the dps list for an encounter.

It sounds to me like you want to be epeen as a Tank OR epeen as a DPS with a tanking class character. That's not going to happen. Character play requires trade-offs, you cannot be all things. You make choices in this MMO like every other MMO. If you want to optimize for Tank or DPS on the fly, then you carry two sets of gear with different "off-stats" and respec accordingly. OR.... spec and gear primarily as a Tank and accept that if you go DPS, you will still contribute but you will not top the dps for an encounter, which should be fine for everyone else.

And if you are out doing your solo thing in game..... tank with a dps companion. It's all you need to do.
Why should it require trade offs when that sniper over there can use the same gear for all 3 specs? Give me a real reason WHY?

Are you disputing that needing one set of gear would make having a character that could tank or Dps make the game more accessible to people? (As not everyone has the time to grind multiple sets of gear or characters, some People like to play one character) thats my point.

Just because it has always had a trade off in the past does not mean it should never be changed.
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FooBard
12.07.2012 , 11:33 AM | #32
Trying to dual spec tank/dps in this game is not a good idea.

Choose which role you want your toon to play and just go with it.

That's my .02

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12.07.2012 , 11:37 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by FooBard View Post
Trying to dual spec tank/dps in this game is not a good idea.

Choose which role you want your toon to play and just go with it.

That's my .02
So your saying enforce a restriction? WHY?

With field respec and free respects for subscribers, the restriction is gear based. WHY should it exist?
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Xatasha
12.07.2012 , 11:40 AM | #34
The reason you have so few tanks and healers is

The player base treats them like red headed step children. No one has fun getting attacked by slightly retarded DPS players

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12.07.2012 , 11:43 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by MasterKayote View Post
heh, sorry OP but your entire argument goes down the drain when you realize there is no dual specs in TOR. Some may go through the troouble of respeccing, some may even have another set for DPSing but most dont.
You do know about field respec and free respecs for subscribers right? Thats like infinite specs if you understand it. But as a tnak my gear is only good for one of my 3 specs, a PDS has gear good for 3 specs.

I could understnd people saying chosse a roll and stick with it if that is what the classes did, but the classes all have 2 dps and 1 tank trees. Maybe if they did a classs with 3 tank trees that would be fine for a stick to you roll argument, but they have not done that.
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FloppyRabbit
12.07.2012 , 11:47 AM | #36
all tanks are fine tbh except juggs. Juggs need a rework in immortal tree, 31 pointer is pretty useless.

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Mazikeen
12.07.2012 , 11:52 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Godlymuppet View Post
Why should it require trade offs when that sniper over there can use the same gear for all 3 specs? Give me a real reason WHY?
Snipers DPS. That's it. They don't heal, they don't tank, they DPS.
Tanks can tank. Tanks can also DPS.
Healers heal. Healers can also DPS.

Do you see my logic here?
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Mazikeen
12.07.2012 , 11:54 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Godlymuppet View Post
...but the classes all have 2 dps and 1 tank trees
IAs get to tank? Since when?
And when did Warriors get to heal?

Yeah, you have no valid argument. Quit while you can.
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Godlymuppet
12.07.2012 , 11:54 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Mazikeen View Post
Snipers DPS. That's it. They don't heal, they don't tank, they DPS.
Tanks can tank. Tanks can also DPS.
Healers heal. Healers can also DPS.

Do you see my logic here?
But no they can't. Not unless they spend extra time grinding out extra gear. Remove that part and your statement is then true.
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FooBard
12.07.2012 , 11:56 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Godlymuppet View Post
So your saying enforce a restriction? WHY?

With field respec and free respects for subscribers, the restriction is gear based. WHY should it exist?
So..... get another set of gear and quit complaining?????

Nothing stopping you from doing this mate.

They are NOT going to redesign the gear specs... and I don't want them to. I'm happy with my sheidl spec shadow... If I want to DPS. I use Sentinal/Trooper/Scoundrel (soon to be GS instead of scoundrel).
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