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Dear BW - Rated warzones

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Dear BW - Rated warzones

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mattycutts
12.05.2012 , 07:33 AM | #1
Hope someone from BW will respond please:

1st, we have rated warzones for LONG time now with the promise would be extended to individuals not just the curret group ones, when will we see this since very few seem to be doing rated warzones in groups on my server now?

we have tried to sign for rated warzones and sat waiting 2-3 hours in peak times no pop

One aspect was really looking forward to was rated warzones not reliant on just a group of 8 on each side signed up.

Would love to see it rate your group and the individual in matches then you could just do away with the "quee group for rated match" since all matches would be rated.

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MiaRB
12.05.2012 , 10:22 AM | #2
BW should scrap the whole rated WZ idea. remove the rating system and turn current rateds WZs into full 8 vs full 8 WZ with same rewards as normal WZs and no rating system at all. the current system is being abused in a bad way.

if BW wants esport type high level competition in PVP they need to do a tourament system that is run by GM's. any coded/automatic system is always exploited and abused.
can't wait for this game to come out!

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thesadplanet
12.05.2012 , 11:07 AM | #3
Unfortunately it seems as if Bioware has all but completely abandoned ranked PvP, at least for now. 1.6 is supposed to be a PvP update, yet does nothing to improve the dire state of rated warzones.

I play on the Shadowlands, and like many other servers, ranked pvp is pretty much completely dead. Occasionally we hold 16 man events where we bring in pugs from various guilds and form two teams, but its very rare to see an actual guild team of 8 people in ranked pvp nowadays.

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AngelAlkaiser
12.05.2012 , 11:11 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by thesadplanet View Post
Unfortunately it seems as if Bioware has all but completely abandoned ranked PvP, at least for now. 1.6 is supposed to be a PvP update, yet does nothing to improve the dire state of rated warzones.

I play on the Shadowlands, and like many other servers, ranked pvp is pretty much completely dead. Occasionally we hold 16 man events where we bring in pugs from various guilds and form two teams, but its very rare to see an actual guild team of 8 people in ranked pvp nowadays.
Actually, you might see an improvement in rateds for 1.6. Given the fact that WH gear will be easier to maintain, and the difference between WH and EWH is not as substantial as previous tiers, this may allow more people to field viable teams.

Just a thought, not a defense.

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DarthSabreth
12.05.2012 , 01:16 PM | #5
your sitting hour in que because its server only, if they had a cross server que it would help a bit. not to mention any 4 man team that ques goes directly into going up against a pug group. if every 4 man group that qued was automatically sent into ranked up against other 4 man teams you would have a much faster service.

most wz's ive been in is loaded with 4 man premades, it wouldnt take long if they sent them to ranked instead of pugs.
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foxmob
12.05.2012 , 01:44 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSabreth View Post
your sitting hour in que because its server only, if they had a cross server que it would help a bit. not to mention any 4 man team that ques goes directly into going up against a pug group. if every 4 man group that qued was automatically sent into ranked up against other 4 man teams you would have a much faster service.

most wz's ive been in is loaded with 4 man premades, it wouldnt take long if they sent them to ranked instead of pugs.
not to be "that guy," but it would only help the 5-10 elite teams. they'd still rofl stomp everyone else who wouldn't Q any longer. I don't know that that's a bad thing. I just wonder if rated wz's have passed the point of no return. the problem now isn't just x-server. it's convincing the casual, moderate and medium talented PvPers to dip their feet in the waters...and in significant numbers so that they don't continually draw elite opponents. I just don't see that happening even with x-server at this point. but I am fairly cynical.....
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TL;DR Bolster is meant to help entry level players, ranked PvP is not entry level PvP.

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islander
12.05.2012 , 01:49 PM | #7
I'd sign up to get rofl stomped if I could solo queue. 6 medals in a losing fight (not that hard to get) is still more ranked comms then converted warzone unranked victories. It's why my ranking is so terrible- I pug sometimes just for the sake of doing so.

as others mentioned though, Ranked Warzones seems to be an afterthought and it's too bad. For us.
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heechJunzi
12.05.2012 , 02:14 PM | #8
Ranked simply doesn't happen unless you pre-arrange queues with another team. No one wants to sit in suspense waiting for a pop.

I would strongly suggest:

- a dashboard showing all currently queued teams,
- or even simpler, an announcement to /pvp channels on fleet (and /general in all WZs).... Every time a team queues. "A team of 8 heroic warriors of the Republic, captained by <insert name> is waiting for challengers!"
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Jadescythe
12.05.2012 , 02:18 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by heechJunzi View Post
Ranked simply doesn't happen unless you pre-arrange queues with another team. No one wants to sit in suspense waiting for a pop.

I would strongly suggest:

- a dashboard showing all currently queued teams,
- or even simpler, an announcement to /pvp channels on fleet (and /general in all WZs).... Every time a team queues. "A team of 8 heroic warriors of the Republic, captained by <insert name> is waiting for challengers!"
Please don't make queue dodging any easier. Something showing how many teams are queued is fine, who they are shouldn't matter.
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islander
12.05.2012 , 02:22 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Jadescythe View Post
Please don't make queue dodging any easier. Something showing how many teams are queued is fine, who they are shouldn't matter.
lol yes, imagine the dodging when they find out the old Seal Team Sith was queueing heh
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