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Can we have the Dread Masters alive in the end?

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Can we have the Dread Masters alive in the end?

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TheBetty
12.02.2012 , 04:10 PM | #11
They never had that chat with me about possibly learning the art of fear....Liars
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Mawduce
12.03.2012 , 10:01 PM | #12
im not sure why they didnt just make 9 dread masters. 8 for the personal stories and 1 for a raid.
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Tfranco
12.04.2012 , 08:06 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by magicallypuzzled View Post
corellia and especially voss were never the empires in the first place and the war pretty much wasting corellia is a solid win for the empire though a costly one. As for the novel i did say it was clear the empire was losing but 1. Novels always dramatize things, and every thing in it was basically saying we are losing until we start winning. Or in the novels owen words "unless something changes we will lose" which means as soon as something changes they will start winning. and 2. The republic lost alot while they were trying to lure the super weapon into a trap a super weapon which by the way always seemed to be in trouble in every battle it participated in. Oh and 3. The novel flat out failed to properly display the scope of each sides fighting power dumbing the numbers down by a factor of ten so why should i or any one be concerned that it displays the republic in a good light?
In the planet side quests you do win over corellia. When you start the bonus series/black hole quest you find out that the republic jumped in after you left and ****ed **** up. I think anyway, been ages since I played corellia...

Also we have lost a lot, **** for all the rest of the empire knows (excluding players) the emperor is dead. How is that not a huge loss to morale? (Like I said ik he's alive, but the npcs of the empire don't know that) we also lost, though not a dark council member, one of our strongest Sith Lords Darth Malgus, who was also a figure head and inspiration for the empire because he spear headed the sacking of coruscaunt (spelling?) oh and imperial intelligence, our equivilient to sis, is disbanded.
The empire is definitely in shambles and trying to recover.
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Varium
12.05.2012 , 05:35 AM | #14
No, they should die.
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NoTomorrow
12.05.2012 , 05:52 AM | #15
All they need to do, is bring back the Emperor from his retirement and all empire revolutions will cease.
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TheBetty
12.09.2012 , 04:07 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by NoTomorrow View Post
All they need to do, is bring back the Emperor from his retirement and all empire revolutions will cease.
I find it funny how they are always saying the Emporer is dead.

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magicallypuzzled
12.09.2012 , 11:53 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Tfranco View Post
In the planet side quests you do win over corellia. When you start the bonus series/black hole quest you find out that the republic jumped in after you left and ****ed **** up. I think anyway, been ages since I played corellia...

Also we have lost a lot, **** for all the rest of the empire knows (excluding players) the emperor is dead. How is that not a huge loss to morale? (Like I said ik he's alive, but the npcs of the empire don't know that) we also lost, though not a dark council member, one of our strongest Sith Lords Darth Malgus, who was also a figure head and inspiration for the empire because he spear headed the sacking of coruscaunt (spelling?) oh and imperial intelligence, our equivilient to sis, is disbanded.
The empire is definitely in shambles and trying to recover.

Sounds like a small lose temporary win or not corellia was never the empires and the infrastructure lose there is a terrible blow to the republic. The emperor being dead will be more then made up for when people learn the emperor is in fact not dead it'll just make him seem that much more unkillable. Malgus is a second tier darth easily replaced even easier then the dark council members. a dozen dead people isn;t enough to put the empre in shambles your making things out to be far far worse then they are.

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HellbirdIV
12.10.2012 , 05:18 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
the Empire already lost too much.
No, it hasn't. See, while "evil is cool" earns the Empire fans, the reality of the universe is that THE EMPIRE WILL LOSE SPECTACULARILY AND BE COMPLETLEY DISSOLVED.

I think "faction pride" for the Empire is ridiculous anyway, but seriously, don't delude yourselves; The Empire is going to lose because that's how the story goes, and that means they will gradually suffer more defeats than they can make up for - Corellia, Ilum and Malgus' betrayal, the Dread Masters etc.

The Empire has been dying a slow death ever since the Republic retook Balmorra, and it's extremely unlikely from a story point of view that it'll ever turn around.

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CaptainApop
12.10.2012 , 01:18 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by HellbirdIV View Post
No, it hasn't. See, while "evil is cool" earns the Empire fans, the reality of the universe is that THE EMPIRE WILL LOSE SPECTACULARILY AND BE COMPLETLEY DISSOLVED.
Completely? Oh so that's why the galactic republic (prequels) use an emblem clearly derivative of vitiates empire.

There's room enough for a couple of galactic dark ages between swtor and the movies. None of us really know where the story will go within the lifespan of the 8 heroes. As for empire losing short term. Sure, but if you seriously think that the whole MMO's main story is in it's final stretch already I would reconsider that thought.
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HellbirdIV
12.10.2012 , 03:12 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainApop View Post
Oh so that's why the galactic republic (prequels) use an emblem clearly derivative of vitiates empire.
Actually it's a Bendu and was used by the Republic as early as the Great Hyperspace War. For some reason the Sith Empire has a symbol that looks a lot more like the one used by the Confederacy of Independent Systems 3000 years later.