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Kaggath Series: Exar Kun vs Mandalore the Ultimate

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Kaggath Series: Exar Kun vs Mandalore the Ultimate

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Aurbere
12.01.2012 , 11:50 AM | #111
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Can someone explain to me WHAT war beasts are, and how Kun creates them?
Sith War Beats are massive creatures created by Sith Alchemy. These beasts include the dreaded Terentetak. Kun can literally create an unlimited number of these creatures.
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"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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Slowpokeking
12.01.2012 , 12:02 PM | #112
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Can someone explain to me WHAT war beasts are, and how Kun creates them?
Kun created them by using Sith Alchemy.

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Beniboybling
12.01.2012 , 12:26 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Sith War Beats are massive creatures created by Sith Alchemy. These beasts include the dreaded Terentetak. Kun can literally create an unlimited number of these creatures.
If Kun has an unlimited supply of war beasts, hordes and hordes of Krath, tons of Massasi and fighters that can take out dreadnaughts, why was defeated by the Republic?

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Aurbere
12.01.2012 , 12:34 PM | #115
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If Kun has an unlimited supply of war beasts, hordes and hordes of Krath, tons of Massasi and fighters that can take out dreadnaughts, why was defeated by the Republic?
He was actually winning until Ulic Qel-Droma was captured and Mandalore the Indomitable was killed. Mandalore led the Fourth Battle of Onderon where he was killed. The remainder of the Mandalorians scattered at the loss of their leader, defeated by the alliance of Beast Riders and the Republic.

Then Ulic led the Republic to Yavin 4, where they cornered Exar Kun and imprisoned his spirit on the planet.

Exar Kun was dominating the galaxy, making his way to Coruscant and Tython before he was defeated.
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"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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Beniboybling
12.01.2012 , 12:55 PM | #116
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He was actually winning until Ulic Qel-Droma was captured and Mandalore the Indomitable was killed. Mandalore led the Fourth Battle of Onderon where he was killed. The remainder of the Mandalorians scattered at the loss of their leader, defeated by the alliance of Beast Riders and the Republic.

Then Ulic led the Republic to Yavin 4, where they cornered Exar Kun and imprisoned his spirit on the planet.

Exar Kun was dominating the galaxy, making his way to Coruscant and Tython before he was defeated.
This seems counter intuitive, 'Exar Kun was winning the war until he started losing'. It seems Kuns defeat was due to successive defeats at Onderon and Ossus at the hands of the Republic. We also have to remember MtI is not in this fight and neither is Qel-Droma. If Kun is so lost without them then surely all MtU needs to do is bombard Yavin 4?

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Aurbere
12.01.2012 , 01:03 PM | #117
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This seems counter intuitive, 'Exar Kun was winning the war until he started losing'. It seems Kuns defeat was due to successive defeats at Onderon and Ossus at the hands of the Republic. We also have to remember MtI is not in this fight and neither is Qel-Droma. If Kun is so lost without them then surely all MtU needs to do is bombard Yavin 4?
He's not lost without them. The Mandalorians made a foolish attack on Onderon after Ulic was captured. They had absolutely no support from Kun's forces, and they were defeated. Then Ulic lead the Republic to Yavin 4, where the Jedi imprisoned Kun's spirit. Ulic's capture caused the end of the war. Without Ulic, Kun has no need to worry about anyone leading the Mando's to him. He can do as he pleases. We saw Exar Kun have his way with the galaxy until Ulic was captured and the Mando's were defeated.
Added Chapter 41 to The Shadows Fall
"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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Beniboybling
12.01.2012 , 01:05 PM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
He's not lost without them. The Mandalorians made a foolish attack on Onderon after Ulic was captured. They had absolutely no support from Kun's forces, and they were defeated. Then Ulic lead the Republic to Yavin 4, where the Jedi imprisoned Kun's spirit. Ulic's capture caused the end of the war. Without Ulic, Kun has no need to worry about anyone leading the Mando's to him. He can do as he pleases. We saw Exar Kun have his way with the galaxy until Ulic was captured and the Mando's were defeated.
Seems a bit foolish on Kun's part to remain on Yavin 4 undefended... how did the Republic fleet managed to invade Yavin 4 so easily?

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Aurbere
12.01.2012 , 01:15 PM | #119
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Seems a bit foolish on Kun's part to remain on Yavin 4 undefended... how did the Republic fleet managed to invade Yavin 4 so easily?
The Republic gained some minor victories that, in combination, led to the Republic attacking Yavin 4. Ulic led the combined force of the Jedi and the Republic to Yavin 4. When the Jedi began the invasion, Exar Kun began a ritual that would drain the Massassi Warriors of their life energy to feed his spirit. This would allow him to continue his war against the Jedi as an unstoppable spirit. The Jedi, Nomi Sunrider in particular, realized what was about to happen, so they imprisoned his spirit on Yavin 4 so that Kun would never again wage war on the galaxy.

The Republic would have never made it to Yavin 4 without the knowledge that Ulic had. And it wasn't the Republic that gained the victory, the Jedi secured victory in the war. Armies of Jedi made several victories in the war that pushed Kun back to Yavin. The Republic would have lost without them. That's why Kun created the Terentetak beasts and sent them to Tython.
Added Chapter 41 to The Shadows Fall
"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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Selenial
12.01.2012 , 01:20 PM | #120
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Seems a bit foolish on Kun's part to remain on Yavin 4 undefended... how did the Republic fleet managed to invade Yavin 4 so easily?
There is quite a nice Journal entry from maser Knost Dural (One of the Swtor blog entries) Which sums this up quite nicely, into a small dosage, of the information you'd need to understand how Kuns last stand went, and exactly what led to his downfall... Ill try find the link for you if you havnt seen it...
The Mandalorian Wars were a series of massacres that masked another war, a war of conversion. Culminating in a final atrocity that no Jedi could walk away fromů save one.
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Force In Balance - The Harbinger