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Buff Operatives


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UGLYMRJ
11.30.2012 , 11:22 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by darthnish View Post
that would be far too much to ask for, id settle for atleast one tree of each class viable for RWZs, operatives have the healing tree, man even WoW doesnt have all trees viable for pvp and its been out for YEARS
Of course it's near impossible... especially with PvE and PvP sharing the same trees.

I'm just saying that's the goal.

But yeah... one viable rated spec per AC would be nice.

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RyanReagan
11.30.2012 , 11:23 AM | #32
The whole idea that operatives should be useless because players would be upset is stupid.

They are the red-headed stepchild of the game. no one brings operative dps to the party by choice, whether it be pve or pvp. They bring them because they are available and will do the job.

Operative has a great opener that can only be used from stealth. It still hits for less than a smash or a railshot AND takes longer to reset. After that, what do you have?

Here are operative dps's main weapons.
Acid Blade/Hidden Strike (1.5 stun)
Lacerate
Debilitate (4s stun)
Explosive Probe
Shiv
Acid Blade/Backstab

Only 30% armor pen? are you serious? PT gets 90% on every railshot.
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CharterMonkKent
11.30.2012 , 11:29 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by cycao View Post
I am waiting to get my warrior buff then my last I will need is the agent buff and I will be rolling an operative. I wanna see for myself if its as bad as everyone says.
It is not bad at all, I get surprised by all the complaints. The new 8 second sprint is excellent. Socs/sins can't run away anymore. It requires someone who knows abilities of the other class though. There is no wasting cool downs with concealment because you only get one chance with the poor energy management.

People like to compare deception to conceal. I'm just lvling shadow/sin now, and they are not that similar. Operatives can't dip out of melee range and still deal 4-5k hits.

I find deception/infiltration to be an easier spec thus. I really enjoy the mid range attacks. Not easy. Just easier than concealment.
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cycao
11.30.2012 , 11:35 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by CharterMonkKent View Post
It is not bad at all, I get surprised by all the complaints. The new 8 second sprint is excellent. Socs/sins can't run away anymore. It requires someone who knows abilities of the other class though. There is no wasting cool downs with concealment because you only get one chance with the poor energy management.

People like to compare deception to conceal. I'm just lvling shadow/sin now, and they are not that similar. Operatives can't dip out of melee range and still deal 4-5k hits.

I find deception/infiltration to be an easier spec thus. I really enjoy the mid range attacks. Not easy. Just easier than concealment.
Yeah deception is fun and can put out some serious damage (topped 600k several times) when played right. It is true that even though I have yet to play an operative that they are different. Assassins really don't get an opener (KD from stealth) and our biggest damaging hits take time to build like VSx2 shock (fairly easy but cannot be done in two seconds) also I hate building resolve right off the bat and discharge with 5 stacks. Also you have access to off heals in a dire situation. Cannot wait to start leveling one and I hope to start this weekend.

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CharterMonkKent
11.30.2012 , 11:39 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by cycao View Post
Yeah deception is fun and can put out some serious damage when played right. It is true that even though I have yet to play an operative that they are different. Assassins really don't get an opener (KD from stealth) and our biggest damaging hits take time to build like VSx2 shock (fairly easy but cannot be done in two seconds) and discharge with 5 stacks. Also you have access to off heals in a dire situation. Cannot wait to start leveling one and I hope to start this weekend.
I think you will love it. Sad thing about lvling one, and maybe one reason there are so few, is that before lvl 40 they are pretty awful. Acid blade is pretty much a must. Especially with all the 16-17k people in 10-49 wzs right now.

When I leveled mine a few months back I went heals to 40 then started the fun.
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cycao
11.30.2012 , 11:47 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by CharterMonkKent View Post
I think you will love it. Sad thing about lvling one, and maybe one reason there are so few, is that before lvl 40 they are pretty awful. Acid blade is pretty much a must. Especially with all the 16-17k people in 10-49 wzs right now.

When I leveled mine a few months back I went heals to 40 then started the fun.
Yeah I may level as a healer for a bit which I have never ever tried in any game and when I get a bit higher respec to deeps.

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steaktrooper
11.30.2012 , 01:17 PM | #37
Haha, remember when all anybody wanted was for operatives to get nerfed, sad how things turned around.
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RyanReagan
11.30.2012 , 01:22 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by steaktrooper View Post
Haha, remember when all anybody wanted was for operatives to get nerfed, sad how things turned around.
The thing is. People didn't want an operative nerf. They wanted a nerf to the overall burst damage because people could stack a billion buffs and just 2-3 shot people. Th operative was a scapegoard because his opener is also a stun.
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