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Idea for Bringing Revan back


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Trixdope
11.29.2012 , 09:56 AM | #1
Ok so since I personally think bioware butchered revan in swtor, I think its only right to put him to rest with a bang.
So my idea would to bring him back in a new flashpoint or Op. With the story being that at the end of the foundry when he disappears in the flash of light, he actually uses fold space to escape death. Then while being thought dead, He was slowly collecting his strength back to peak form while delving further into the darkside due to the taint from being imprisoned and mindphucked by Vitiate. So playing on how Revan was seen at the end of the foundry (Crazy+Dark) he aims to continue on with his plans of destroying the emperor and eradicating the sith.

So Revan gathers a huge army of followers using his famed charisma/leadership and gains allies of rebellious sith (humans,aliens-none with traces of Sith DNA) Revanites, and even Recruits Mandalore and the mandalorians (who don't trust the emperor anyways and want to break away from the sith and respect Revan enough to do it.)

All the meanwhile the emperor is still recovering his energy from the battle with the jedi champion so is in no position to oppose any of this atm so uses his Wrath and Dark council members to deal with Revan. Revan then wages total war on dromund kaas with Mandolorian Basilisk flying over head. Large lightsaber battles between loyal emperors sith and Revans followers. Which ends with Revan taking over Kaas City and the emperors throne room in which he holds and waits for a response from the emperor.

Thus Brings a Tier 2 HM/ or preferably OPS that has the emperor send his Wrath,council member NOX, cipher 9, and the Great hunt champion ect. to destroy him once and for all.

Which would have you fight bosses leading up to Revan such as (mandalore the Vindicated, Maybe a traitor Dark council member-Decimus/Ravage? , And maybe 1 other boss I can't think of.

Then you would arrive to Revan (in his darth outfit+mask) get a cool lil cutscene before you fight. Then while fighting the game should have Revan show his full array of attacks such as (keeping large OPS in mind) Massive force storms,Whirlwinds,force choke group ccs similar to malgus, Telekenisis Boulder throws, force heal himself, to name a few.

And when he enrages maybe he can pull out a second saber and go into Jar'Kai style with his Purple/Red Saber?


All this just came together as i was typing so of course bioware can clean it up a bit and make it fit with the story/canon but i think this would be a fitting death for the most iconic character in my opinion from the old republic era.

what do you guys think?




EDIT: Couldn't really think of a way to fit in the pub version of this FP/OP so maybe you guys could (not that i would care if they got one or not) lol IMPS UP!

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Rayla_Felana
11.29.2012 , 10:01 AM | #2
This game is for the heroes of this game, not the hero of the first game, we don't need him overshadowing the heroes of today just because DK screwed over the KotOR fans, you just cannot fix what they have done to the original heroes, leave it as it is and let the new heroes have their pieces, hell evolve the 'iconic' characters of this game like Satele and Jace Malcom, all those characters.

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MasterMe
11.29.2012 , 10:12 AM | #3
Well, it would be interesting. Sounds very epic.

But I'm kinda with Rayla on this one. I just don't see how Bioware can clean up this mess of theirs. Here's where they screwed up:
Revan is a awesome character (imo). When an awesome character presumably dies, bringing him back is not necessarily the best idea. HOWEVER if you do it right, bringing back the character would be awesome. The problem is this; they've already brough him back once and they failed terribly. To bring him back AGAIN would be a screw up in so many ways. The only good endings that exist for Revan are these:
Revan died when he fought Vitiate
OR
Revan dies after coming back into the game and doing something cool INSTEAD of the foundry nonesense.

So, in retrospect, Bioware just can't clean up this mess. Not unless they start over.

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Trixdope
11.29.2012 , 10:14 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
This game is for the heroes of this game, not the hero of the first game, we don't need him overshadowing the heroes of today just because DK screwed over the KotOR fans, you just cannot fix what they have done to the original heroes, leave it as it is and let the new heroes have their pieces, hell evolve the 'iconic' characters of this game like Satele and Jace Malcom, all those characters.
He wouldn't be overshadowing them anymore than Malgus was....I know your Revans number 1 hater on these forums so i wouldn't expect you to like the idea.

maybe they should make one about Meetra instead......oh wait lol

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Rayla_Felana
11.29.2012 , 10:19 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Trixdope View Post
He wouldn't be overshadowing them anymore than Malgus was....I know your Revans number 1 hater on these forums so i wouldn't expect you to like the idea.

maybe they should make one about Meetra instead......oh wait lol
I don't want ANYBODY from before this game being involved, the difference between Malgus and Revan or the Exile or Kreia is that Malgus is kind of the Malak of this game, not the true big bad but the main antagonist/protagonist nonetheless.

I think what they(DK and BW) did to the characters of Revan, the Exile(Meetra Surik is a terrible name), HK-47, T3-M4 and others was a cop-out merely intended to make the people of the Old Republic 'better', but they have done the damage, retconning any of this stuff simply won't do any good and further ruining the mystery of the once great Revan character is the total opposite of what should be done.

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Trixdope
11.29.2012 , 10:27 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
I don't want ANYBODY from before this game being involved, the difference between Malgus and Revan or the Exile or Kreia is that Malgus is kind of the Malak of this game, not the true big bad but the main antagonist/protagonist nonetheless.

I think what they(DK and BW) did to the characters of Revan, the Exile(Meetra Surik is a terrible name), HK-47, T3-M4 and others was a cop-out merely intended to make the people of the Old Republic 'better', but they have done the damage, retconning any of this stuff simply won't do any good and further ruining the mystery of the once great Revan character is the total opposite of what should be done.
I think they took a giant **** on HK,T3,Meetra and Revan too but the only difference is Revan is the only one that can be saved because He didn't FOR SURE die on the foundry he just got DEFEATED so his character can be saved if they did something epic like my idea. They cant save the other 3 because they KILLED them off, there's nothing that can be done. I understand what your saying about leaving characters in the past but Bioware DIDNT leave them in the past they brought them back.

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Rayla_Felana
11.29.2012 , 10:39 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Trixdope View Post
I think they took a giant **** on HK,T3,Meetra and Revan too but the only difference is Revan is the only one that can be saved because He didn't FOR SURE die on the foundry he just got DEFEATED so his character can be saved if they did something epic like my idea. They cant save the other 3 because they KILLED them off, there's nothing that can be done. I understand what your saying about leaving characters in the past but Bioware DIDNT leave them in the past they brought them back.
I don't think you get it, it wasn't big mary sue epic moments that made Revan so great, it was the mask, the mystery and the magnificence, we used to have a seriously wonderuous character in Revan, but the novel threw all of that out the window and made him some has-been with no mystery left at all, the game made it even worse.

You can't save characters who have been robbed of their uniqueness and what made them so special, especially by just slapping random powers all over them, personality>power.

Starkiller/Galen Marek was a 'force wrecking ball' as LucasArts put it, but that didn't make him a good character by any stretch of the imagination.

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gurumoicano
11.29.2012 , 10:48 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
I don't think you get it, it wasn't big mary sue epic moments that made Revan so great, it was the mask, the mystery and the magnificence, we used to have a seriously wonderuous character in Revan, but the novel threw all of that out the window and made him some has-been with no mystery left at all, the game made it even worse.

You can't save characters who have been robbed of their uniqueness and what made them so special, especially by just slapping random powers all over them, personality>power.

Starkiller/Galen Marek was a 'force wrecking ball' as LucasArts put it, but that didn't make him a good character by any stretch of the imagination.
I love Revan, and I think he is a very interesting character. I understand why his figure has created so many "disciples".
But I don't think make him to revive is a good idea: the Foundry was a mess. Another resuscitation could be a disaster. I agree with Rayla, what makes Revan as Revan was his uniqueness.

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MyDarkSunshine
11.29.2012 , 10:51 AM | #9
Have to say, I'm in complete agreement with Rayla.
"Who I am is not important- my message is." Revan

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TekAlcon
11.29.2012 , 10:56 AM | #10
the republic side could also be with the lost jedi following him instead of or with the revanites, and i hate how much malgus is around, they focus even more on him then the emperor himself, and malgus isn't even all that important, hes just some darth that lead a few battles in the war, he isn't on the dark council, he has no connection to the emperor. so why is he here?bioware used him for a focus because they either didn't have or where too stupid to use anyone else. it makes no sense why he's so important.
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