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Greatest Force User of All Time

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BrandonSM
11.25.2012 , 10:39 AM | #201
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Anyone you can name from DC or Marvel has more than a handfull of people who can beat them and possibly kill them at anytime . Writers are held to a Plot Armor that is not without a end and eventually could . Granted there are Fanboys of those worlds as well and often lead to terrible comebacks.
WERs !
Hulk.........seriously ? Guy has lost in the most epic battles that were beyond well writen .


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World War Hulk was never beaten, he got to stalemate with the Sentry. World War Hulk is Hulk at his strongest and
most powerful. He practically beat all of the Avengers most of the X-Men.
I know my Hulk, and he is indestructible if he reaches World War Level.


Yeah, this isn't off topic. :P
Hapan: "This creature has information that could lead us to a woman who has been kidnapped. We will get that information."
Luke: "This woman is a citizen of the New Republic, and if you do not take your hands off her, I will take your hands off you."

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mefit
11.25.2012 , 10:48 AM | #202
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World War Hulk was never beaten, he got to stalemate with the Sentry. World War Hulk is Hulk at his strongest and
most powerful. He practically beat all of the Avengers most of the X-Men.
I know my Hulk, and he is indestructible if he reaches World War Level.


Yeah, this isn't off topic. :P
Heres the thing though , in Marvel no one is unkillable or unbeatable . It just seems that way , but eventually they all get beat .
It happens , it just takes decades of writing .
The only time I ever been upset at a fight in Marvel is when Stryfe vs Cable in the Executioners Song's, but neverless it was a extremely good story.
I wanted Stryfe to win , I wanted him to be the real son of Cyclopes and Jean . I thought it would have been more EPIC if their Real Son was Evil ...........but ohwell. Not too mention because I wanted him to be so , I remember better my friend 10 dollars over it who rubbed it in my face for days and days in school !

I would like to add , good doesn't always beat evil in Marvel either .
Darth Mefit
Sith Marauder
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LordCJK
11.25.2012 , 02:56 PM | #203
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I have to say, this looks like an excellent list. You're missing the Great Heep, though.

In all seriousness, what about Bane? He probably shouldn't be near the top, but I think we can safely say he was more powerful than, say, starkiller.
Bane can be recognized as the weakest of Banite Sith dynasty(excluding Maul, Millenial and some other unknown exceptions.Dooku is hard to be recognized as creation of Banite system, because Sidious has never wanted make Tyranus stronger than himself, but i think he has good chances in the battle with Bane). So Bane would go after Zannah and Cognus and many unknown Siths.
What about Starkiller... He's more powerful than Vader and his Force potential is like Skywalkers' one. He had a little experience compare to Dessel, but his Force level... So, if we take Orbalic Bane, I'd say Starkiller could overwhelm his Force shield with lightning and Orbalisc will kill Bane. In case if Bane would manage to resist, Starkiller can destroy him with hitting head( orbalisc armor weakness). As we can see in Rule of Two novel, Bane is amazing lightsaber duelist, but Jar'Kai masters can overwhelm his defence.
Dynasty of Evil's Bane can't be easily killed by lightning but his stats aren't so impressive as Galen's.In lightsaber Starkiller prefers Jar'kai + Juyo, i agree that Bane could learned how to resist this style by final novel of the Trilogy, but anyway...
As for Force powers, Starkiller is just better if even take Bane's experience.And we shouldn't forget that Dynasty of Evil's Bane has weakness caused by long time Dark Side using...
I don't say Starkiller would easily defeat Bane, no. I think it will be close fight and Galen can even get hardly injured. In my opinion, Bane's level is close to Vader, but a bit lower.

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BrandonSM
11.25.2012 , 03:16 PM | #204
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Bane can be recognized as the weakest of Banite Sith dynasty(excluding Maul, Millenial and some other unknown exceptions.Dooku is hard to be recognized as creation of Banite system, because Sidious has never wanted make Tyranus stronger than himself, but i think he has good chances in the battle with Bane). So Bane would go after Zannah and Cognus and many unknown Siths.
What about Starkiller... He's more powerful than Vader and his Force potential is like Skywalkers' one. He had a little experience compare to Dessel, but his Force level... So, if we take Orbalic Bane, I'd say Starkiller could overwhelm his Force shield with lightning and Orbalisc will kill Bane. In case if Bane would manage to resist, Starkiller can destroy him with hitting head( orbalisc armor weakness). As we can see in Rule of Two novel, Bane is amazing lightsaber duelist, but Jar'Kai masters can overwhelm his defence.
Dynasty of Evil's Bane can't be easily killed by lightning but his stats aren't so impressive as Galen's.In lightsaber Starkiller prefers Jar'kai + Juyo, i agree that Bane could learned how to resist this style by final novel of the Trilogy, but anyway...
As for Force powers, Starkiller is just better if even take Bane's experience.And we shouldn't forget that Dynasty of Evil's Bane has weakness caused by long time Dark Side using...
I don't say Starkiller would easily defeat Bane, no. I think it will be close fight and Galen can even get hardly injured. In my opinion, Bane's level is close to Vader, but a bit lower.
Dooku would win.


He's got way more experience with stronger foes than Bane. Dooku beat The Chosen One and Obi-wan Kenobi. The second time he beat Kenobi while fighting the Chosen One. He also is seen multiple times besting Grevious and Ventress in duels/training things.
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Luke: "This woman is a citizen of the New Republic, and if you do not take your hands off her, I will take your hands off you."

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Kilikaa
11.25.2012 , 03:42 PM | #205
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1.Abeloth(Power of Font of Power and Pool of Knowledge powers combined,was able to defeat both Son and Dauther,13 times stronger than Luke Skywalker.I put her before Father considering his TCW Mortis trilogy version, don't know much about his peak).

2.The Ones(doesn't matter if it's Dauther,Son or Father,i'm pretty sure they were equal at TCW timeline, it's obvious that father was stronger before,aged weaked him,Father at his peak was equal to Abeloth or stronger).

3.Luke Skywalker(reached force potential of Chosen One, used both Light Side and Dark Side abilities).

4.Darth Sidious(the strongest Sith ever existed, candidate for Sith'ari title, learned almost all Dark Side abilities).

5.Marka Ragnos(master of Vitiate, noone could defeat him during his lifetime, ''golden age of the sith'', his ressurection would cause destruction of New Jedi Order).

6.Lord Vitiate(he's weaker than Sidious by canon but his feats are amazing,easily overwhelming strong minds with the force,rituals on planetary and galactic level, i'm still doubt is Ragnos really stronger than this guy?).

7.Darth Plagueis(Palpatine's master,top 2 in Bane's dynasty, could manipulate midi-chlorians, lightsaber master, overwhelmingly strong in the the force even if he had no talent for some force abilities).

8.Master Yoda(gave a good fight to Palpatine, was strongest Jedi during Clone Wars, doubt if he's stronger than Jacen but even if Jacen's potential is near Luke's, Yoda's experience(900 years lifetime,huh) would take it).

9.Darth Caedus(Skywalker bloodline, potential near Chosen One, stand in the fight with Luke).

10.Kyp Durron(high force potential that he reached,his power level was compared to Luke(though i don't think it can be compared) and candidate for the next Sith lord during LOTF).

11.Darth Nihilus(his absorbing feats are impressive but he can't be compared in close combat or other force feats with monsters like Luke,Sidious or even Yoda and Caedus).

12.Unnamed Jedi Knight Hero from SW:TOR(he deafeated Lord Vitiate though it was just a host of his essence but it was the thing that Revan and Meetra both combined weren't able to do).

13.Revan( by the end of ''Revan'' novel, both Light and Dark side Master, ''Heart of the Force'').

14.Nomi Sunrider/Thon(i really have no idea who's the strongest of this pair even is i don't like use slash in tops).

15.Starkiller(Potential of Darth Sidious, learned many force abilites(both sides of the force), amazing lightsaber duelist).
You list Caedus (Jacen Solo) but you don't even put his sister, Jaina on the list? You actually think that wuss Starkiller is stronger than The Sword of the Jedi?

Jaina Solo can beat half the people on your list with ease. She would make Revan her bi#@h! Durron is no match for her either. I like Durron a lot, but he can't beat Jaina. Remove Abeloth and The Ones, as they are more manifestations of the Force. Luke is Number one, with Sidious at a close second. Jaina is easily in the top five, if not top three.

Starkiller? That guy is a chump. Juhani could whoop his behind with her eyes closed.

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LordCJK
11.26.2012 , 05:49 AM | #206
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Dooku would win.
He's got way more experience with stronger foes than Bane. Dooku beat The Chosen One and Obi-wan Kenobi. The second time he beat Kenobi while fighting the Chosen One. He also is seen multiple times besting Grevious and Ventress in duels/training things.
I agree, but it still would be a close fight.
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You list Caedus (Jacen Solo) but you don't even put his sister, Jaina on the list? You actually think that wuss Starkiller is stronger than The Sword of the Jedi?
Well, yes he is. Jaina was able to defeat him only with Luke's help.
Sword of the Jedi? I don't know much about FOTJ, Jaina probable became stronger here,i took her as NJO-LOTF. If you will able to devote me in her powers, I'll be very pleased, really.
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Durron is no match for her either.
His Force potential and experience is higher.
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Remove Abeloth and The Ones, as they are more manifestations of the Force
A famous delusion.All of them were mortal beings who one day gained immense power.We don't know much about The Ones, but Father told that Anakin could gain his post, so theoretically he gained it the same way.
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if not top three.
Do you think she's stronger than Lord Vitiate or Ragnos?

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Inzuher
11.26.2012 , 05:55 AM | #207
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yoda should be no 1 yall
Go away...

In my opinion the three who could've been the greatst would be either The Sith Emporer (Darth Vitate) or Darth Nihilus.

Now some might say that "according to G-Canon Palpatine is the must powerful sith ever!"

Well my responds to that would be: "Please... Lucas clearly havn't read the expanded univers so in my opinion his words are worth less than nothing, when it doesn't concern something about the movies."

Marka Ragnos and Naga Sadow mgiht also make the list, but since we know little of Ragnos' actual force powers he is too unclear. Sadow might've started two supernovas, but he used a meditation sphere which greatly enhance his powers, for that reason I believe Vitate and Nihilus is more powerful than him.

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Comon guys have none of you played TFU? starkiller is by far the most powerful force wielder he was also both jedi and sith
No starkiller is the resolve of allowing incompitent people, who have no regards of lore or bigger understanding of the force, to create a god of war like game.
"I am that which grips the heart in fright, hearkens night, and silences the light.".

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LordCJK
11.26.2012 , 06:05 AM | #208
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Go away...

In my opinion the three who could've been the greatest would be either The Sith Emporer (Darth Vitate) or Darth Nihilus.

Now some might say that "according to G-Canon Palpatine is the must powerful sith ever!"

Well my responds to that would be: "Please... Lucas clearly havn't read the expanded univers so in my opinion his words are worth less than nothing, when it doesn't concern something about the movies."
There were many sources, not only Lucas' word.
Vitiate probably almost equal with Sidious, but a bit weaker...
But Nihilus...
This guy is really overrated. I know that his Force drain is very impressive but Palpatine and Vitiate could destory planets with Force too.Among this, they had uncountable list of abilities...I'm not sure if Nihilus can even resist mind tricks of these guys...

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SoranPanoko
11.26.2012 , 06:37 AM | #209
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5.Marka Ragnos(master of Vitiate, noone could defeat him during his lifetime, ''golden age of the sith'', his ressurection would cause destruction of New Jedi Order).
he was never Vitiates master. He just give him the Lord title and Vitiate go back to his planet. No chance he ever give him a lesson or something ...

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MasterMe
11.26.2012 , 06:41 AM | #210
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he was never Vitiates master. He just give him the Lord title and Vitiate go back to his planet. No chance he ever give him a lesson or something ...
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