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Warrior smash spec

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Warrior smash spec

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mrekxxx
11.25.2012 , 10:17 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Givemedanger View Post
Remove autocrit. But don't buff anything else! No more power/surge stacking.

Balance is restored.
hundreds of warriors/knights worked months on their gear, what now? they shall grind new mods/armorings/enhancements again with crit?

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Givemedanger
11.25.2012 , 02:09 PM | #72
You're so funny. When i remod i keep all the mods. I'm sure most people do.

With 1.6 it will be so easy to get new ones.

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Kerensk
11.25.2012 , 02:59 PM | #73
People (usually sent/maras) say L2P or "there are counter classes" and say that the Sniper/Gunslingers do high damage too.
The problem is that snipers do high 1v1 damage and moderate AoE damage (over time). Whereas the Marauders do high AoE damage instantly and high 1v1 damage up close. The Marauders need to be redesigned back to 1v1 killers.

I really don't mind when a Marauder gets in my face and kills me 1v1,that's their point, they should be the melee glass cannon that hacks you to bits when they get close. When they can leap to an entire team and demolish all of them at once it becomes OP. As a melee class it should be the powerful swing of their lightsaber that should be feared, not their long range jumping.

Change Marauders and Sentinels back to the melee version of the sniper as a counter class should be.
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Monterone
11.25.2012 , 03:50 PM | #74
The entire premise that an AoE ability should auto-crit and hit for this much is simply broken.

Remember the last time a class could hit for 8-9k in a single hit? It was operatives, almost a year ago. And that was single target, and using warzone and biochem adrenals that increased flat damage + power.

Current champs, Rage specs, hit that without any adrenals and do so in an AoE to up to 5 targets.

I really don't understand what else there is to discuss about this topic.
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PowerReaper
11.25.2012 , 03:53 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Monterone View Post
The entire premise that an AoE ability should auto-crit and hit for this much is simply broken.

Remember the last time a class could hit for 8-9k in a single hit? It was operatives, almost a year ago. And that was single target, and using warzone and biochem adrenals that increased flat damage + power.

Current champs, Rage specs, hit that without any adrenals and do so in an AoE to up to 5 targets.

I really don't understand what else there is to discuss about this topic.
Only difference is that back then an Operative had the power to kill you while you where still knocked downed, and even if you did manage to survive that they had more then enough stuns on short cool downs to keep you in check. Also they had heals and stealth, back then you had under 14k HP...
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PowerReaper
11.25.2012 , 03:54 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by filipesantana View Post
i play a jugg and i HOPE BW completely removes this spec from the game(or nerf it to the ground)

i refuse to play a 3 button " no skill required" spec (and vengence doesnt perform that badly either anyway)

its boring and unskilled.

my solution: NErf the base damage of smash by ALOT...and BUFF the force scream damage by alot. This way Smash spec would become mroe balanced and vengence more viable.
Woot that makes Combat/Carnage spec even more powerful and gives people more reasons to complain about Sentinels and Marauders with a Blade Storm and Force Scream buff. Then ill get called a lolscreamer or lolstormer.
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NoTomorrow
11.25.2012 , 03:58 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Kerensk View Post
People (usually sent/maras) say L2P or "there are counter classes" and say that the Sniper/Gunslingers do high damage too.
The problem is that snipers do high 1v1 damage and moderate AoE damage (over time). Whereas the Marauders do high AoE damage instantly and high 1v1 damage up close. The Marauders need to be redesigned back to 1v1 killers.

I really don't mind when a Marauder gets in my face and kills me 1v1,that's their point, they should be the melee glass cannon that hacks you to bits when they get close. When they can leap to an entire team and demolish all of them at once it becomes OP. As a melee class it should be the powerful swing of their lightsaber that should be feared, not their long range jumping.

Change Marauders and Sentinels back to the melee version of the sniper as a counter class should be.
Hm interesting perspective, i suppose you could theoretically say that

Lethality = annihilation
Carnage = marksmanship
Rage = engineering.

but this far far from truth. Lethality is a real glass cannon spec, it has no survivability at all.Engineering however is a survivability dps spec, its like a heavy armored class. but the similarities end here. Fury vs Ballistic shield, another big difference in concept.
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MorgonKara
11.25.2012 , 04:02 PM | #78
Smash is the only thing the Rage spec has going for it, if that gets nerfed the spec will be pointless.
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PowerReaper
11.25.2012 , 04:03 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by MorgonKara View Post
Smash is the only thing the Rage spec has going for it, if that gets nerfed the spec will suck.
Then Juggernauts will have 2 pointless dps specs D=
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MorgonKara
11.25.2012 , 04:08 PM | #80
Yeah well I hope they don't nerf my Warriors because some carebears can't handle a little pvp competition. PvP re-balancing causes more problems in TOR than their glitchy graphics updates. PvE should come first imho.
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