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Exhaltia
11.24.2012 , 10:03 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by BlazingShadow View Post
Could it be that all of this complaining over CC be really a case of one's ego overtaking the rational side of one's mind, enraging them when they realize they have no influence let alone control of what is to become of their character? I don't see anything unfair about CCs, especially considering that every class has several forms of it.

We could just as easily complain about DoTs doing damage to us because "we don't see anything hitting us" but we don't. The only real difference between a DoT and a CC is the amount of control one has over their character under its influence. Actually, isn't CC benign in comparison to being set on fire, coated in acid, or hemorrhaging blood? CCs don't do considerable damage, they just keep you locked in place.

Interesting
I don't see what you don't get. Playing a game where you can't control you character isn't much of a game at all. let alone fun, but getting damaged in a WZ is what we expect, and what we play for. Kill the opponent before they kill you. At least if your dying by DOTs you still have a fighting chance.

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fungihoujo
11.24.2012 , 11:35 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Exhaltia View Post
I don't see what you don't get. Playing a game where you can't control you character isn't much of a game at all. let alone fun, but getting damaged in a WZ is what we expect, and what we play for. Kill the opponent before they kill you. At least if your dying by DOTs you still have a fighting chance.
Stuns are part of mmos... one could just as rightly say that being killed by someone who can do damage three times faster than you in burst isn't much of a game at all- but if you did marauders would be jumping down your throat, then lolsmashing your tonsils.

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BlazingShadow
11.25.2012 , 12:13 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Exhaltia View Post
I don't see what you don't get. Playing a game where you can't control you character isn't much of a game at all. let alone fun, but getting damaged in a WZ is what we expect, and what we play for. Kill the opponent before they kill you. At least if your dying by DOTs you still have a fighting chance.
ah so you're confirming my hypothesis... you want to just do damage, just roll your face on the keyboard and not have it interrupted, not have your little world shaken by those god awful CCs.

How exciting, and I'm not even a psychology major!

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RazielHex
11.25.2012 , 01:39 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by neocoma View Post
you know ..I wouldnt care about stuns at all if the resolve system would work.

I mean ...getting a stun while your bar is at 90 % ...the stun fills it completely ...your resolve bar is full, yet you are stunned for the whole duration. You die ...you respawn. You resolve bar runs out again.

O_o ***.
Stop being ignorant. Resolve doesn't break stuns, it prevents further CC from affecting you. You just need to be smart enough to tactically plan your break to be the moment that bar gets white so you can frolic in the posies absorbing all the CCs your enemy has to no effect.

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DariusCalera
11.25.2012 , 01:57 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by BlazingShadow View Post
Could it be that all of this complaining over CC be really a case of one's ego overtaking the rational side of one's mind, enraging them when they realize they have no influence let alone control of what is to become of their character? I don't see anything unfair about CCs, especially considering that every class has several forms of it.
And perhaps that is several forms too many.

Quote: Originally Posted by BlazingShadow View Post
We could just as easily complain about DoTs doing damage to us because "we don't see anything hitting us" but we don't. The only real difference between a DoT and a CC is the amount of control one has over their character under its influence. Actually, isn't CC benign in comparison to being set on fire, coated in acid, or hemorrhaging blood? CCs don't do considerable damage, they just keep you locked in place.

Interesting
DoTs can be cleansed relatively easily and repeatedly by several class. CCs can not.

I think most players that have played MMOs before understand the need for CCs in a game, it helps to develop tactics and coordination. But at what point do those necessary CCs become over the top and do more harm to the game than good?

I don't think people are arguing against the idea of CCs in the game, just the amount that exists and the fact that you can be, very easily, stun locked from 20K health to death and that the resolve system is not working. Or, at least, not working well.

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fiveohnine
11.25.2012 , 02:47 AM | #56
Hi guys I too suck at pvp but would like to take this opportunity to blame CC for it instead.

Thanks.

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Ovan_Oh-One
11.25.2012 , 03:45 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by DariusCalera View Post
And perhaps that is several forms too many.



DoTs can be cleansed relatively easily and repeatedly by several class. CCs can not.

I think most players that have played MMOs before understand the need for CCs in a game, it helps to develop tactics and coordination. But at what point do those necessary CCs become over the top and do more harm to the game than good?

I don't think people are arguing against the idea of CCs in the game, just the amount that exists and the fact that you can be, very easily, stun locked from 20K health to death and that the resolve system is not working. Or, at least, not working well.
Yes they can, if you have any friendly healers around and they pay attention. Whirlwind? Cleanse. Electrocute? Cleanse. Snares? Cleanse.
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Exhaltia
11.25.2012 , 05:03 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by BlazingShadow View Post
ah so you're confirming my hypothesis... you want to just do damage, just roll your face on the keyboard and not have it interrupted, not have your little world shaken by those god awful CCs.

How exciting, and I'm not even a psychology major!
Wow, you failed, completely and utterly. I am ALL about tactics and often give up having good numbers to make sure we win. I know how to use my CC breaker only when my resolve is full, or need to stop a cap. The problem, again, isn't that it exists, but how MUCH there is. I'm actually an objective focused player, but killing your opponents is ALSO part of capping, not just CC. I don't know if you realized that, but you're probably the ******* type that won't attack healers because you don't understand the game.



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Yes they can, if you have any friendly healers around and they pay attention. Whirlwind? Cleanse. Electrocute? Cleanse. Snares? Cleanse.
That's a good point, but with the amount of CC and only 1-3 healers per side it's a moot point. No way healers can cleanse so many stuns on so many people without letting them die, or getting themselves killed.

Solution: AOE Cleanses? Anyone have any ideas on how that could rebalance the stuns?

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FourTwent
11.25.2012 , 05:24 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by fiveohnine View Post
Hi guys I too suck at pvp but would like to take this opportunity to blame CC for it instead.

Thanks.
the most honest interpretation of this this thread

+1 sir

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JackNader
11.25.2012 , 05:39 AM | #60
Rotfl.. it's actually the opposite. The people who want the resolve system fixed are more likely to be the better players. It's scrub noobs who don't want it fixed because stuns compensate for their lack of skill.