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Famous Jedi bloodline is overused among great jedi?

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Famous Jedi bloodline is overused among great jedi?

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Slowpokeking
11.23.2012 , 12:28 AM | #1
Anakin is the Chosen One, Luke is his son that's fine, Cade is their descendant. Satele Shan is the descendant of Revan and Bastila Shan. Ulic's mother is a Jedi master. They all share famous bloodline. It does not make a character Sue but it's a Sue trait and to the Jedi heroes, it is a bit overused. Even Bastila Shan was originally going to be Vima Sunrider.

As for famous Sith Lords, only Nox, Krayt and the Sith Emperor got famous Sith bloodline, the Emperor was that Sith Lord's illegitimate son. Sidious, Exar Kun, Emperor's Wrath, Plagueis, Bane, Sidious, the Sith Triumvirate all don't have famous famous Sith bloodline. It only made them cooler.

Can Jedi be cool without famous jedi bloodline? Sure, Revan and Surik proved it.

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Xatasha
11.23.2012 , 12:33 PM | #2
The funny thing is for most of the Jedi history. Jedi having families was suppose to be very rare but it seems every Jedi breaks the rule

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Aurbere
11.23.2012 , 12:35 PM | #3
You forgot Plo Koon. His uncle and niece were both Jedi. The three of them were all quite powerful in their own right.

As for famous bllodlines. They can get overused sometimes, but I don't think it's an epidemic.
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Slowpokeking
11.23.2012 , 12:55 PM | #4
Oh, Krayt and the Sith Emperor's dad are not really famous,especially compare to the Shan and the Skywalker.

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mefit
11.23.2012 , 02:09 PM | #5
I find the Solo Bloodline to be more fun .......... just sayin.
Jacen + Jaina Solo > Anything (EU FanBoy GOD ,Mary Stu) Luke Skywalker ever had .

Heck even playing a MMO the name Solo sounds soo much cooler than Skywalker . Han and Leia Skywalker were even more fun to watch in the movies than Luke .

Lucas should have named it Solo Ranch , after all he only allowed his work to be important and trashed everyone elses ! GodBless G-Canon is dead !
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11.23.2012 , 02:12 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by mefit View Post
I find the Solo Bloodline to be more fun .......... just sayin.
Jacen + Jaina Solo > Anything (EU FanBoy GOD ,Mary Stu) Luke Skywalker ever had .

Heck even playing a MMO the name Solo sounds soo much cooler than Skywalker . Han and Leia Skywalker were even more fun to watch in the movies than Luke .

Lucas should have named it Solo Ranch , after all he only allowed his work to be important and trashed everyone elses ! GodBless G-Canon is dead !
Actually, G-canon is very much alive. It's called Episodes 1-6. Hate G-canon as much as you want, but it helped build a foundation for other Star Wars works. Without it, Star Wars would be a jumbled mess.
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mefit
11.23.2012 , 02:30 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Actually, G-canon is very much alive. It's called Episodes 1-6. Hate G-canon as much as you want, but it helped build a foundation for other Star Wars works. Without it, Star Wars would be a jumbled mess.
G-Canon is a rule set by George Lucas and policed by Leland Chee . George is no longer last say and his rules will no longer apply .
(""Hey more than likely Leland Chee will be the new Canon Controller and not just the Cop ! "")

Agree however that 1-6 will be set in stone , but nothing outside of them are . So Lucas saying whom is more powerful , is no longer set in stone . He sold that with LucasFilms .
Even better there will be no more Film Fixes from Mister G-Canon himself who has done some bad things to his own films trying to bend them to fix PT mistakes !
G-Canon gets its name from George -> G .

While I will miss his ironfist control , and often leading to more mistakes in StarWars continuty , I am for one happy Luke Skywalker story might get some well needed flavor other than Mary Stu Superman God of StarWars .

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11.23.2012 , 02:33 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by mefit View Post
G-Canon is a rule set by George Lucas and policed by Leland Chee . George is no longer last say and his rules will no longer apply .
Agree however that 1-6 will be set in stone , but nothing outside of them are . So Lucas saying whom is more powerful , is no longer set in stone . He sold that with LucasFilms .
Even better there will be no more Film Fixes from Mister G-Canon himself who has done some bad things to his own films trying to bend them to fix PT mistakes !
G-Canon gets its name from George -> G .

While I will miss his ironfist control , and often leading to more mistakes in StarWars continuty , I am for one happy Luke Skywalker story might get some well needed flavor other than Mary Stu Superman God of StarWars .

I still think Luke's going to be the most powerful. Because he's the main character. It's either going to be him, or the guy he passes the torch on to. Personally, I prefer Luke being the best. Luke or another Skywalker. The movies have been about the Skywalker's so I think it should continue like that.
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Nataph
11.25.2012 , 10:16 AM | #9
Yes it is overused and just plain lazy. I think the problem stems of the fact that before Star Wars books were only "interesting" because of the bloodline. now that Star Wars has gotten popular again, other than fanboys, people are enjoying the new individual characters away from the bloodlines. Jaden Korr, Kyp Durron, Kyle Katarn, Mara, and the Old republic characters.
I think it is silly that people that are force sensitive can have force sensitive children, this means people can manipulate the Force and if that was the case, yoda should have been having romantic relations with female jedi in order to have more Jedi. But they dont. Why? Because as Timothy Zahn wrote, people with very little force sensitivity are more likely to have Jedi children than Jedi having forceful children. But because authors are lazy and do not want to create a Jedi without the Skywalker name among others, they continue to have characters that are family. For such a large galaxy, the 6 degrees of separation seems more like 2 degrees in a galaxy far far away.

I do hate this. I want to know about other jedi because that is what makes the Star Wars lore interesting.
Not because of a last name. Freaking Inbred Jedi!
I was hoping Ben would be the last of the Skywalker name but oh no.. you have Kol and Cade Skywalker, father and son. Freaking BORING!
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mefit
11.25.2012 , 10:54 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
I still think Luke's going to be the most powerful. Because he's the main character. It's either going to be him, or the guy he passes the torch on to. Personally, I prefer Luke being the best. Luke or another Skywalker. The movies have been about the Skywalker's so I think it should continue like that.
Sorry to say but only Fans of Luke see him as that way , there are atleast a hundred other characters who could be considered main characters .
I look at StarWars like I look at Marvel and DC . Its uncreative , unimaginable people who seems too Fanboyish to have the ability to break past Luke Skywalker , the most predictable Character in any Comic .

So your welcomed to like these Stories that surely always end almost the very same way everytime , I like my stories to be writen by people who are able to have imaginations and be creative .

By the way , where is good old ProfessorWalsh, I know hes a BIG EU LUKE SKYWALKER Fanboy, hope hes doing ok and having a happy Holidays !
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